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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
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"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
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rshow55
- 12:23pm Mar 28, 2003 EST (#
10636 of 10642)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
And what we say is that we will protect
Iraq's territorial integrity. We will support representative
government that unites Iraq on the democratic basis of human
rights and the rule of law. That we will help Iraq
rebuild--and not rebuild because of the problems of
conflict, where if it comes to that, we will do everything
we can to minimize the suffering of the Iraqi people, but
rebuild Iraq because of the appalling legacy that the rule
of Saddam has left the Iraqi people.
And then in particular, Iraq's natural
resources remain the property of the people of Iraq. And
that wealth should be used for the Iraqi people. It is
theirs and will remain so, administered by the U.N. in the
way we set out.
This isn't that language of a bandit. The use of
force was being denied - at least in the very
significant sense of put off indefinitely.
International law barely exists now, when it matters most,
and has to be renegotiated.
Almarst and Commondata set out some standards
of international law that are clear, and on the books, but
that are being renegotiated - in large part for reasons I
support, even though I have many reservations about Bush and
the military-industrial complex. 9859 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.Bh4dasqb65z.0@.f28e622/11402
There has to be some exception handling to reinforce
but modify a basic rule. I suggested the law of homicide, as
an analogy in 9859
commondata
- 12:58pm Mar 28, 2003 EST (#
10637 of 10642)
Thanks for the Blair speech. Let me quote Chirac back at
you:
Declaration by Jacques Chirac, President of the
Republic
Elysée Palace, March 18, 2003
Ever since the beginning of the Iraq crisis, France has
endeavoured to make possible the necessary disarmament of Iraq
under United Nations authority. This disarmament is under way,
as the inspectors have been demonstrating. France has acted in
the name of the primacy of the law and in accordance with her
conception of relations between peoples and between
nations.
True to the spirit of the United Nations Charter, which
is our common law, France considers that recourse to force is
the last resort, when all other options have been
exhausted.
France's position is shared by the great majority of the
international community. The most recent debates have clearly
shown that the Security Council was not prepared, under
present circumstances, to approve a precipitate march to
war.
The United States has just issued an ultimatum to Iraq.
Whether, I repeat, it's a matter of the necessary disarmament
of Iraq or of the desirable change of regime in that country,
there no justification for a unilateral decision to resort to
war.
Regardless of the forthcoming developments, this
ultimatum is calling into question our idea of international
relations. It affects the future of a people, the future of a
region, world stability.
It is a grave decision, at a time when Iraq's
disarmament is under way and the inspections have proved to be
a credible alternative method of disarming that country.
It is also a decision which jeopardizes future use of
methods to resolve peacefully crises linked to the
proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.
Iraq does not today present an immediate threat
warranting an immediate war. France appeals to everyone to act
responsibly to ensure the respect of international legality.
It appeals to them to maintain the Security Council's unity by
staying within the framework set by UNSCR 1441.
To act outside the authority of the United Nations, to
prefer the use of force to compliance with the law, would
incur a heavy responsibility.
Chirac only denied the use of force as a real end point
while there were credible alternatives. And there
were credible alternatives.
lchic
- 02:02pm Mar 28, 2003 EST (#
10638 of 10642) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
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bbc | Mulgabe - his thugs are BEATING innocents with cables
Bi-election this weekend
Doctors say hundreds of people - beaten tortured humiliated
... one woman had to drink the urine of her children ...
another watch as they sexually abused her mother with rifle
butt ...
Women are abused in the milita camps - raped
How long can Zimbabwee endure these horrors?
The Westphalian neighbours are supportive of Mulgabe
'If change comes it will have to come from within'
bbc
lchic
- 02:06pm Mar 28, 2003 EST (#
10639 of 10642) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
~~~~
Rummy
" POW's must be treated according to Geneva Conventions
" Syria - trafficing of supplies to Iraq - should stop
" Iran - Iranians in Iraq will be treated as combatants
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