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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 12:20am Mar 28, 2003 EST (# 10593 of 10614)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Most folks have decent standards ....

Iraqi people have not enjoyed decent standards

Almarst ... the regime in Iraq ... how would it have treated you - had you lived there - and not wanted to fall in-line with the baath party?

A lot of people have been denied a 'decent' life ...

A lot of people have been denied a right to their culture ....

A lot of people have died

A lot have LEFT

A lot of people are not happy with Saddam

.... and if you had been an Iraqi - then the chances are you might not have been so thrilled either

almarst2003 - 12:23am Mar 28, 2003 EST (# 10594 of 10614)

lchic - 12:10am Mar 28, 2003 EST (# 10590 of 10591)

If you would refresh your memory, you could recall that:

Iraq was the most modern Arab state before war with Iran. Modeled after the Soviet system, they had full women's rights, free advanced health care, en education system on-pair with Europe, huge proportion of middle class, high standard of living. That was the only advanced high-technology Arab state with over 70% of population living in city.

Unfortunatly, Saddam had ambitions. And good friends never shy to give an advice and tricky toys promising invencibility. Why for example not to attack Iran. in self-defence. In order to PREEMPT the imminent uprising of religious shiats against a secular state.

The rest as some like to say, is history.

lchic - 12:31am Mar 28, 2003 EST (# 10595 of 10614)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

There are 'standards' in business process

Why not 'standards' in human process?

lchic - 12:33am Mar 28, 2003 EST (# 10596 of 10614)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Human process --- Human progress

lchic - 12:36am Mar 28, 2003 EST (# 10597 of 10614)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

The root problem may be the failure of the US, over past half century, to have it's foreign policy with the people .... rather than the 'Shadow Zone'

Seems there's resentment from people around the world regarding the way they were manipulated by the US and had political 'correctness' according to Washington imposed on them

The anti-american feelings may be the hurt of past wounds .... when the will of the people re elections was subjegated to the will of a shadow-planner in the Pentagon

________

Even so -- the people of Iraq need to shake off Saddam and move forward

almarst2003 - 12:46am Mar 28, 2003 EST (# 10598 of 10614)

fredmoore,

I also appreciate the honesty in your posts but in regard of that honesty I think ONE thing need to be reinforced.

Please, check the history, the events, the intentions and results of those intentions after WWII. Better yet, start from the break-down of Ottoman empire and British take-over the ME.

I believe US took a mantle of leadership from Britain as part of a land-lease agreement and condition for US to enter the WWII.

"they steer us in directions of greater order, technology and stability"

Well, can you count how many wars US and British where involved in since WWII? How many years the US fought at least one war out of total 57 since WWII? I would say - many. Way too many to place your statement so confidently. Not to mention all those proxi-wars and covert operations targeted precisely to destabilize any nation not ready to obey the orders from Washington. Not to mention support of any bloody dictatorship as long as it remains friendly to US.

I fully accept - LETS BRING HONESTY TO OUR DISCUSSION.

almarst2003 - 12:49am Mar 28, 2003 EST (# 10599 of 10614)

lchic,

Why is it any time I try to engage your rethoric you change the topic and go to phylosophical or poetical excile?

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