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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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almarst2003 - 11:37pm Mar 27, 2003 EST (# 10587 of 10614)

The defence secretary, Geoff Hoon, appeared to confirm today that last night's interruption of Iraqi TV was the result of coalition bombing. - http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12956,922285,00.html

After they translated the Holliwood's Western, the Iraqi TV is now designated as a military target:)

Its funny how many meanings the word "freedom" may have:)

almarst2003 - 11:39pm Mar 27, 2003 EST (# 10588 of 10614)

Did I mention year - 1812, place - Russia

almarst2003 - 12:00am Mar 28, 2003 EST (# 10589 of 10614)

ME TOO! ... ME TOO! ... PLEEEEEEEEEESE!!!

Trade and Industry Secretary Patricia Hewitt has waded into the row over American companies carving up reconstruction work after the war in Iraq, lobbying on behalf of British companies. - http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12956,919881,00.html

Did they forget the proper place for the puppy is under the table?

lchic - 12:10am Mar 28, 2003 EST (# 10590 of 10614)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Look at the 'march of empires' in the historical context

The Persians beat the Egyptians because they had 'better technology' ... swords & armour

The Arab nations are currently the UN Report Aug2000 said, the POOREST nations on earth, excepting Sub-Saharan Africa's CHAD

Those at the very bottom of the pile - especially those living so close to modern countries and failing to adapt - become subject to takeover

The aim of Bush isn't to take them over -- rather to oust Frankenstein and get the zone up and functioning

The value of this would be a more secure and settled/calm area

The Arab/Iraq/nations have to ask why they fell to the 'back' in the economic states and what they can do to get ahead ...

One of the responses (regionally) has to be to let women into the workplace

So what's the modern sword and armour?

Has to be modern communications .....

The new liberator isn't Bush

Rather the speed of communication

To grow strong Iraq may have to look to adapting modern technology, (and check out those cultural-belief systems) - fast - and use it in a way that 'advances' the zone into the NOW of their future

almarst2003 - 12:11am Mar 28, 2003 EST (# 10591 of 10614)

A British soldier who was shot as he tried to calm rioting civilians in southern Iraq died yesterday, the first British combat death since the war began, the Ministry of Defence said - http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12956,921457,00.html

No flowers... yet.

fredmoore - 12:15am Mar 28, 2003 EST (# 10592 of 10614)

Almarst ...

I appreciate the honesty in your posts but in regard of that honesty I think a few things need to be reinforced.

The Anglo-Americans did not have to fight for their freedom in WWII, they did not have to dig deep for the courage to win and they did not have to rebuild the dignity of those ultimately conquered. Roosevelt's 'new deal' truly extended across much of the world after WWII and still prevails. This gives the US and Britain a mantle of leadership which is respected although begrudgingly by the rest of the world.

As with any leadership, they steer us in directions of greater order, technology and stability and we CANNOT PRESUPPOSE they have failed till they do, even if we sometimes disagree.

Many in the world today see the ENRON collapse as an indication of that failure and the Iraq conflict as the finishing touch. However does anyone other that God have the wisdom to judge this right now?

In those darkest hours of Kosovo, Afghanistan and now Iraq can we say it was not their finest hour? One thing we know for sure: the death toll and human misery in Iraq over the last 12 years and the 12 to come would in every way dwarf the death and suffering now occurring. As I've said before, it takes courage to choose between millions of deaths and thousands when there is no alternative. However we have an obligation to do just that and anyone without such courage, Almarst cannot truly claim a moral superiority. All that they can claim is a disregard for history and an ignorance of the ugliness as well as the beauty inherent in truth.

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