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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 08:17pm Mar 26, 2003 EST (# 10543 of 10547) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Former Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan Dead at 76 By ADAM CLYMER http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/26/obituaries/26CND-MOYNIHAN.html

Daniel Patrick Moynihan, the Harvard professor and four-term United States senator from New York who brought a scholar's eye for data to politics and a politician's sense of the real world to academia, died today in Washington. He was 76.

Some people are a lot smarter, better, and luckier than I am. Moynihan will be missed. He got a first rate obit. If he'd had a chance to read it - he'd have been proud.

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Some of the really smart people work for the NYT - for instance Friedman.

Scorecard for the War By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/26/opinion/26FRIE.html

Mr. Friedman has been working on a documentary entitled "Searching for the Roots of 9/11" for The New York Times and the Discovery Channel. It will be broadcast tonight on the Discovery Channel at 10, Eastern time.

I'll be watching!

The NYT Missile Defense thread was very active just after 9/11 ----- and one can trace that, hour by hour, day by day, using http://www.mrshowalter.net/calendar1.htm starting with the very first garbled news of the tragedy.

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md8000s/md8762.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/ isn't fancy, but it links to a lot.

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dccourgar, http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/352 has a note contextualizing the words "technically easy" . My guess is that a lot could be done with ten million dollars - - not so very many seconds of DOD expenditure.

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We have some adjustments to make. If we make them, we can be much richer and much safer.

I hope a lot of people watch Friedman's work "Searching for the Roots of 9/11" on the Discovery Channel at 10, Eastern time.

commondata - 09:56pm Mar 26, 2003 EST (# 10544 of 10547)

<a href="/webin/WebX?14@28.uabta6VI5h1.1754476@.f28e622/12084">jorian319 3/26/03 11:42am</a>

Poignantly highlights the moral bankruptcy of those who would turn a blind eye to the unimaginable atrocities perpetrated upon the Iraqi people by the dictator with whom you would prefer to negotiate.

Jorian, you've been reminding me of another unpleasant Nazi that often stalks these boards, were you bored with the Gisterme monika? Here's an article that highlights the moral bankrupcy of defending the slaughter of innocent people in order to control the resources of a third world nation. The choice, by the way, was never between that and doing nothing - remember the inspections that were going so well?

http://argument.independent.co.uk/commentators/story.jsp?story=391165

It was an outrage, an obscenity. The severed hand on the metal door, the swamp of blood and mud across the road, the human brains inside a garage, the incinerated, skeletal remains of an Iraqi mother and her three small children in their still smoldering car. Two missiles from a single American jet killed them all — more than 20 Iraqi civilians, torn to pieces before they could be ‘liberated’ by the nation which destroyed their lives.

lchic - 04:26am Mar 27, 2003 EST (# 10545 of 10547)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

So war's war but what for?

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