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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 07:47pm Mar 25, 2003 EST (# 10488 of 10510) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

We have a wealth of historical information about how Russian troops respond. No more gently.

almarst2003 - 10:07pm Mar 25, 2003 EST (# 10489 of 10510)

What you are saying in War there is no good guys.

I agree. However, hoplessly weaker victim of agression has a significant moral high ground. at least in my view.

BTW. Did Minutmen followed the rules of war as was expected by British? Did SA burds fought on the open with Britain? Did Chechens? Did Afgans?

As it was grequently pointed out here, the sense of proportion is importand. As are HONESTY and MORALITY.

almarst2003 - 10:12pm Mar 25, 2003 EST (# 10490 of 10510)

I am quite disgust by attempts to approve atrocities commited by unwelcomed foreign invador acting under pretense as "liberator". Even "barbaric" Russians did not fall that low in Chechnia where about 40% of population where native Russians civilians. Many brutally killed or expelled.

dccougar - 10:24pm Mar 25, 2003 EST (# 10491 of 10510)
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts.

Did Minutmen followed the rules of war as was expected by British?

Yes, I thought of that. But in the Revolutionary War, did the British have any recourse, any alternative strategy which would allow them to wipe out their enemy because they thought they were fighting dirty? No, not really. Does the U.S.? Well, they won't use the alternative, but they certainly have the capability to utterly level the entire country of Iraq. They won't. That's not the objective. Still, that's a capability. Not to use it, isn't that a moral decision?

almarst2003 - 10:31pm Mar 25, 2003 EST (# 10492 of 10510)

U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV - http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/02/24/iraq/main541815.shtml

I suspect some will have no problem to explain and approve.

As for Minutmen. I didn't research yet. However, just the fact they where not regulars would place them into a category of "enemy combatans" hold forever in Guantanamo.

Regarding SA war, as I remember, burs did not follow the rules.

almarst2003 - 10:36pm Mar 25, 2003 EST (# 10493 of 10510)

As a matter of fact, from WWII and in all following major wars US took part, it committed WAE CRIMES on a gross scale. including Gulf War I and Serbia.

US would wipe out Vietnam - but couldn't.

US could wipe out Iraq but wouldn't - there is little sense to break the egg if you expect it to bring you a goose.

lchic - 10:43pm Mar 25, 2003 EST (# 10494 of 10510)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Is there a bigger fool in the world than Saddam?

Hard to find one.

The guy should have GONE .... let people live, and let the 'property' infrastructure stay in tact.

Money to rebuild -- there'll be none.

What will happen to Iraq is that for all 'services' folks will be fronting an ATM with plastic card ... the office and staff for transaction will be 'elsewhere' .... there are enough native iraqi speakers around the world thanks to the Saddam-Nightmare-debacle.

Can anyone put a figure on the price to Iraq of having had to suffer Saddam&Sons over past decades --- quite a high one no doubt!

lchic - 10:47pm Mar 25, 2003 EST (# 10495 of 10510)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

If you don't want war crimes

don't have wars

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