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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 07:00pm Mar 24, 2003 EST (#
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Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/429
Sometimes
"It is easier to get forgiveness than it is
to get permission . .
If things are done gradually - it may slowly clarify that,
in the ways that matter - you have permission - or
something like permission - for an exceptional circumstance -
bending but not breaking a more basic rule. The NYT forums are
copyrighted.
On Jul 19, 2002 EST I announced that I was archiving the
Missile Defense thread, and making a disk available 3144 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.eVa5aQP955p.1246762@.f28e622/3936
I handed a disk to Rick Bragg, a senior NYT reporter -and
it was clear that "powers that be" knew the disk existed. 4581
http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.eVa5aQP955p.1246762@.f28e622/5785
After some while, and much discussion I set up the contents
of the NYT Missile Defense thread on http://www.mrshowalter.net/
- immediately posting that on the MD thread (which is
monitored). - Though much of my web site remains in partial
disarray - it has been linked many, many times to the NYT MD
thread - on Guardian threads, as well.
Dates and numbers of parts of the MD thread that had been
taken down have been made available in Calendar of NYTimes
Missile Defense Discussion (to July 2002) http://www.mrshowalter.net/calendar1.htm
and have been used.
I'm using information available if one clicks my moniker,
rshow55 on my web site, as Showalter Background http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?224@28.eVa5aQP955p.1246762@40679d@.f28e622/11149
"Putin" Briefing http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.eVa5aQP955p.1246762@.f28e622/10537
I've now set out full copies of some wonderfully useful,
frequently cited and much appreciated Guardian threads - that
may be useful to people who, I believe, have used the MD
thread and followed the Guardian threads. ( These full
files are too long for use with a telephone modem - each of
these Guardian threads, in full form - is of the order of a
megabyte or more. )
The first Guardian thread I worked on was Paradigm Shift
- whose getting there? "Paradigm Shift .... whose getting
there?" Fri 28/07/2000 ; started July 28, 2000 http://www.mrshowalter.net/Paradigm1_926.html
- - On the Paradigm thread, I believe that Dawn Riley and I
worked out basic issues about paradigm conflict, many
summarized in links cited in MD116 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.eVa5aQP955p.1246762@.f28e622/137
that I hope will make it easier to solve paradigm conflict
problems. The progress we were able to make on that thread
(which would never have been possible without the
erudition and grace of Dawn Riley) - made me think that it was
time to "come in to the New York Times" - as Casey had
suggested I might have to do. I tried to do that in September
2000 - and got "stranded". It hasn't worked as I'd hoped - but
perhaps it will turn out well.
After some difficulties, and an all day meeting with an
imposing figure on September 25, 2000 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?224@28.eVa5aQP955p.1246762@40679d@.f28e622/11149
Dawn Riley and I worked to convey information we thought vital
to world security and decency in many Guardian threads,
including especially these, that I've made available in full
on http://www.mrshowalter.net/
- set up so that links work to the actual Guardian Talk
threads.
Psychwarfare, Casablanca . . . and terror Started
Sept 26-27, 2000) http://www.mrshowalter.net/Psychwar1_390.html
is the thread most often cited on the MD thread.
Mankind's Inhumanity to Man and Woman - As natural as
human breathing? http://www.mrshowalter.net/Mankind'sInhumanity001_406.html
started Nov 12, 2000 deals with an essential problem that need
clarification if we are to learn to be more decent.
God is the Projection of Man's Unrealised Potential
started Nov 15, 2000 http://www.mrshowalter.net/GodistheProjection1_1534.html
has many more postings by others than by me - and deals
gracefully with many key philo
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