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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 12:43pm Mar 23, 2003 EST (# 10370 of 10375)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Showalter put out an interesting post here:

http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.sOxea8wb5m7.1007675@.f28e622/11900

http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.sOxea8wb5m7.1007675@.f28e622/11902

In this he notes what is 'driving' the educated affluent terrorist.

He asks why no balancing response from the US-president.

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Generally i've been looking at 'religion', the need for interpreters and mediators to link communication betwix earthlings and godling.

The Dawkin's post has a working link -- raises the point are we running the show or being run by the genes we're composed of ....

Showalter would say that the patterns of culture that statististically wash over us - shape us.

The military seem to say - 'Take this!' - action over words.

The Pope says 'Peace' - and Preachers say 'Pray'

but in the end

the current question is how to rescue people within mal-Nation-States from tyrants

and international law isn't sufficiently developed to set 'standards'

That there are a trillion viewpoints on the current situation in Iraq suggests that were 'standards' in place, then it would be easier to survey .... and see the bends in the road to the future that need straightening ... to enable most to maximise their potential and have real futures for their children in a 'better' world

So - the fanatical ideological mind of a supposed-islamic terrorist needs rebuttal from within/outside the islamic world

If truth is linked to peace and beauty ... then ... leaders everywhere must develop their 'roadmaps'

rshow55 - 12:47pm Mar 23, 2003 EST (# 10371 of 10375)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Almarst refers to "small tyrants."

This tyrant may be considered "very small" - but the human consequences have not been small.

http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.sOxea8wb5m7.1007675@.f28e622/8361

We have to do better than "Treaty of Westphalia" rules.

There have to be standards. That work . Work for people.

Until there is some moderation on current Treaty of Westphalia standards that give leaders of all nation states an essentially unlimited "right to lie" - - and their subordinates, including their subordinate presses and many others an enormous right to lie - there are no solutions to some of the most basic human needs.

If there were some moderately effective ways to get facts straight, when it actually mattered - most of the serious problems of the world would clean up - and do so pretty quickly.

The US would have plenty of embarrassments - but in terms of American interests - and the interests of all people who care about human welfare - the price would be well worth paying.

The Missile defense boondoggle, because it involves technical issues that are so clear, would be a fine place to start - and cleaning the mess up there would perfect and demonstrate the tools needed to clean up a lot of other messes.

4429 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.sOxea8wb5m7.1007675@.f28e622/5598

When things are complicated, truth is our only hope: http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/296

fredmoore - 01:31pm Mar 23, 2003 EST (# 10372 of 10375)

I found this article on channeling:

http://www.listening-in.com/channel.html

I'd be interested in what people think of it. It is not what I had originally thought.

Two things puzzle me:

1. The interviewer of the ex CIA 'op' seemed to be totally au fait with the channeling concept when it was mentioned. He didn't even raise an eyebrow. It certainly recorded on my BS meter.

2. The above article says that evil spirits do not exist and evil deeds such as Saddam's are a manifestation of low self esteem. Hmmm, the CIA could be doing a lot of ancient (Babylonian/Nebuchanezer) history for nought.

My take on this is Thermodynamic. Increase the sustainable energy in a cultural system, increase its order, lower its entropy , increase its self esteem and decrease the evil deeds.

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