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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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fredmoore - 12:17pm Mar 22, 2003 EST (# 10326 of 10333)

'Se la, se la

All the children

Tell me about the children

We've got to help them now to survive

One world, one heart is our salvation

Let us keep the dream alive.'

Lionel Ritchie

lchic - 12:20pm Mar 22, 2003 EST (# 10327 of 10333)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Arabs lose wars - WHY?

http://www.unc.edu/depts/diplomat/AD_Issues/amdipl_17/articles/deatkine_arabs1.html

lchic - 12:28pm Mar 22, 2003 EST (# 10328 of 10333)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Trivia - The $ + - pen mightier than sword switch-around

"" Thank goodness for proofreaders! In the first balanced-budget plan passed by the Republican-led House, taxes weren't cut at all. Because of a typo, the House passed a plan that would actually raise taxes by this astonishing figure. FTP, to the nearest trillion, what is the amount of increased revenue that was added by the slip of a pen, two and a half times mroe than the national debt?

Ans: _10 trillion_

http://www.stanford.edu/group/CollegeBowl/Archive/phl95/BREMER.txt

lchic - 12:36pm Mar 22, 2003 EST (# 10329 of 10333)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Baghdad - new wave bombing - S and E of city

rshow55 - 12:37pm Mar 22, 2003 EST (# 10330 of 10333) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.aJhHanKI5xS.784121@.f28e622/11871

Liberators or vigilantes?

At different levels, for unchangeable reasons - the answer is both

and there IS no contradiction.

From time to time, I've used language like this:

Look at the picture. Look at the pattern of the picture. http://chiron.valdosta.edu/whuitt/col/regsys/maslow.html

Right now, under Treaty of Westphalia rules, leaders have an essentially unlimited "right" to play God - to kill or mistreat subordinates - and to lie. Some leaders, in limited ways - have to "play God" to change that.

We have basic control problems here - and workable systems have to be sorted out. What we have now, too often, is a mess.

Here's another picture to look at - about Fractals circumstances and SELF-SIMILARITY

http://math.bu.edu/DYSYS/chaos-game/node5.html

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=fractal+AND+self+similar&btnG=Google+Search

http://reylab.bidmc.harvard.edu/tutorial/DFA/node2.html

For heirarchical control systems - (and we all embody them, and live inside them - and interact with others who also live inside them) are at some fundamental and unchangeable levels somewhat "fractal" like.

(At some formal levels, subject to some restrictions, the systems with disciplned beauty are exactly "fractal-like" in the sense of being as self-similar as they can be - level to level.)

Fact: Different layers of control almost always have to switch signs in a pattern that goes + - + - + -- like converging series solutions do.

Unless you happen to pick exactly the perfect frame of reference - you're in for series solutions practially all the time - if you're hoping for solutions that work decently at all.

There are basic "contradictions" that aren't escapable.

We have some growing up to do.

Fredmoore , I AM telling you about children - and things all "children of nature" and "children of God" need to learn.

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