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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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fredmoore - 08:56am Mar 22, 2003 EST (# 10308 of 10312)

RShow ... Backhanders are poorshow.

In this game, we've got some interesting negotiations, involving force and very high stakes going on now. I'm concerned, that if people don't know the true sentiments and psychology of the major players in the "game" then irrational and ugly consequences will ensue where beautiful consequences are a reasonably optimistic alternative if the right 'SMARTS' are used at the appropriate times.

The 7th Cav knows all too well the value of smart music/smart psychology!

rshow55 - 08:57am Mar 22, 2003 EST (# 10309 of 10312)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Powell and Bush have tried to be consistent - and a lot of back-and-forth negotiations have gone on - with some tensions and inconsistencies - as happen in all focusing negotiations - but with underlying consistencies, too. These links from a week after 9/11 may bear rereading.

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md9000s/MD9417.HTM http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md9000s/md9419.htm

my 9417 starts: "At the beginning of the Bush administration, few would have predicted a coordination of world leaders like this."

World Leaders List Conditions on Cooperation by PATRICK E. TYLER and JANE PERLEZ http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/19/international/19DIPL.html

rshowalter - 11:28pm Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9419 http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md9000s/md9417.htm includes quotes from articles:

"If policy is changing, nobody seems quite sure where it is heading. Just what Mr. Bush, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell and Vice President Dick Cheney meant when they indicated that harboring terrorists would be a casus belli in the fight against terrorism remained unclear.

"In Moscow, an influential parliamentarian, Aleksei G. Arbatov, said although the consensus there was "total moral support" for the United States and the struggle against terrorism, there also existed a strong humanitarian concern "not to resort to massive strikes, to nonselective actions which are unjustified from the moral point of view, to avenge the death of thousands of innocent people with the deaths of tens of thousands of other innocent people."

"Karl Kaiser, a foreign policy expert in Germany, said the "experience of the first months of the administration caused a great deal of concern in Europe about unilateralism."

""However," Mr. Kaiser said, "something rather extraordinary has happened, and the reaction of the administration thus far, contrary to some fears that existed, was so different, so cautious and stressing the need to act with others." As a result, Mr. Kaiser suggested that at least for now "the image of the cowboy shooting from the hip is gone."

rshowalter - 9420 http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md9000s/md9419.htm includes a true story that fredmore might appreciate.

A large number of links to this thread connected to the issue of checking are posted on Psychwarfare, Casablanca -- and terror 394 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/427

Unless we face up to the need to actually get facts established so that we have some stable common ground - even if that means going beyond Treaty of Westphalia limits we face problems for which there is no solution.

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