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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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almarst2003 - 03:17pm Mar 19, 2003 EST (# 10218 of 10227)

"All over the world, many feel, on key things that ought to matter, that the US is doing the right thing."

You must have missed the latest surveys, Robert. unless you consider 10-30% as MANY.

This is a greatest SHAM and SHAME.

BRUSSELS, Belgium, March 19 (UPI) -- Bugging devices have been discovered in German and French offices at the European Union's headquarters in Brussels, an EU spokesman confirmed Wednesday, fueling speculation the United States is snooping on the two anti-war governments. - http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030319-100250-7442r

rshow55 - 03:43pm Mar 19, 2003 EST (# 10219 of 10227) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

I read the numbers in Negative Views of U.S. Are Increasing in Europe, Poll Finds By CHRISTOPHER MARQUIS and MARJORIE CONNELLY http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/19/politics/19CND-POLL.html - - which were uniformly negative - but also read this:

"most believed that the Middle East would be more stable after an American-led invasion."

"The antipathy to Mr. Bush and the United States is all the more striking because most of the European nations firmly believe that the people of Iraq would be better off if Saddam Hussein is removed from power and disarmed by the United States and its allies. "

"By wide margins, they agreed that the Middle East region would be a more stable place after a United States-led ouster of Saddam Hussein. Russia and Turkey were the only exceptions."

That, I think, is consistent with what I said in 10217: All over the world, many feel, on key things that ought to matter, that the US is doing the right thing.

I think this is good news for the world, too:

"Every nation surveyed wanted to recast the partnership between the United States and Western Europe to grant Europeans more independence in determining their security and foreign policy.

That would mean that the nations the respondants belong to will have to do some growing up - some taking responsibliity - and some staff work that they've left to the United States.

Right now, the whole world is muddled, but things are getting clearer:

7146 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.wqzGa8br5zS.217432@.f28e622/8669

7538 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.wqzGa8br5zS.217432@.f28e622/8882

8746 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.wqzGa8br5zS.217432@.f28e622/10272

9508 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.wqzGa8br5zS.217432@.f28e622/11047

rshow55 - 04:04pm Mar 19, 2003 EST (# 10220 of 10227) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Almarst , if the US did what it looks like it may have in the report of http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030319-100250-7442r - - there ought to be consequences.

If other nation states want to workably constrain US "hegemony" - they have to get THEIR OWN chaotic, sloppy internal affairs in better order, in spots - and get their relationships with each other in better order, as well. That's overdue.

Kissenger was no angel - but he had to be responsible for action. As I recall, he once said that he'd take "Europe" seriously when he had a phone number he could call when he needed action - or a decision. That's still a major criticism.

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