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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 02:19pm Mar 18, 2003 EST (# 10167 of 10191)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

On Iraq - currency - reasons for war --- "" the biggest one is hidden and very, very simple. It is about the currency used to trade oil and consequently, who will dominate the world economically, in the foreseeable future -- the USA or the European Union.

Iraq is a European Union beachhead in that confrontation. America had a monopoly on the oil trade, with the US dollar being the fiat currency, but Iraq broke ranks in 1999, started to trade oil in the EU's euros, and profited. If America invades Iraq and takes over, it will hurl the EU and its euro back into the sea and make America's position as the dominant economic power in the world all but impregnable.

It is the biggest grab for world power in modern times.

http://surgenetwork.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=2&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

lchic - 02:20pm Mar 18, 2003 EST (# 10168 of 10191)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Links re above |

SOME REFERENCES AND FURTHER INFORMATION:

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/RRiraqWar.html 'The Real Reasons for the Upcoming War With Iraq: A Macroeconomic and Geostrategic Analysis of the Unspoken Truth' by W. Clark, January 2003 (revised 20 February), Independent Media Center, www.indymedia.org

http://www.indymedia.ie/cgi-bin/newswire.cgi?id=28334 This war is about more than oil. OIL DOLLARS!!!! DOLLARS, THE EURO AND WAR IN IRAQ. This story is based on material posted by Richard Douthwaite on the FEASTA list in Ireland.

http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2002/12/1550023_comment.php#1551138 USA intelligence agencies revealed in plot to oust Venezuela's President

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentI d=A41444-2003Jan11&notFound=true Washington Post Split Screen In Strike-Torn Venezuela By Mark Weisbrot Sunday, January 12, 2003; Page B04

http://www.atimes.com/global-econ/DD11Dj01.html Asia Times online: Global Economy US dollar hegemony has got to go By Henry C K Liu

http://www.feasta.org/energy.htm

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/EnemyWithin.html The Observer The Enemy Within by Gore Vidal London, Sunday 27 October 2002

almarst2003 - 03:53pm Mar 18, 2003 EST (# 10169 of 10191)

lchic,

Thanks a lot for the links.

Are we among just a fiew who see the "Naked King"?

lchic - 06:09pm Mar 18, 2003 EST (# 10170 of 10191)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

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rshow55 - 07:50pm Mar 18, 2003 EST (# 10171 of 10191) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

House of Commons Defeats Antiwar War Motion By WARREN HOGE http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/18/international/europe/18CND-BLAI.html

Mr. Blair said today's issue had dimensions broader than just disarming Iraq. It involved, he argued, the central security threat of the 21st century, the future of the United Nations, relations between Europe and the United States, unity within the European Union and the way the United States engages with the rest of the world.

"If our plea is for America to work with others, to be good as well as powerful allies, will our retreat make them multilateralist ?" he asked. "Will it not instead be the biggest impulse to unilateralism there could ever be ?"

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There was a very vigourous debate:

9.20pm update (of a debate that started at 12:35 pm)

LIVE: Iraq emergency debate Matthew Tempest, political correspondent Tuesday March 18, 2003 http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12956,916716,00.html

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