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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 09:07pm Mar 26, 2002 EST (#841 of 868)

PROBLEM SOLVERS - who are they ????
An interesting study by the Australian Government http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,4026560%5E12333,00.html
Skills are built by the degree By Patrick Lawnham / March 27, 2002

    WHEN it comes to the generic skills employers love, it seems a university education enhances the abilities that students already have.
    The higher the tertiary entry scores needed for a course, the better the abilities of first-year students in such skills as critical thinking, problem solving and communication.
    The same is true of students as they finish their courses, only more so.
    Take problem solving. The best performers, going into university and coming out, are people in medicine and dentistry – reassuring when you visit a surgery.
    Arts students, on the other hand, don't do so well at problem solving, and, perhaps surprisingly, information technology students are almost back with them.
    Business and commerce students tend to do worse at problem solving than arts counterparts.
    The indications come from early cohorts in the federal Government's graduate skills assessment, a test of critical thinking, problem solving, written communication and interpersonal understanding, which students can take as they enter and leave university.
    New medicine and dentistry students are followed in problem-solving skills by engineering and architecture students, law students, and those doing science or maths, IT, arts and humanities, business or commerce, nursing and education/social courses.
    This order is loosely maintained between new and graduating students, although exiting students have substantially higher scores across the disciplines, suggesting university life improves virtually everyone's generic skills.
    On completion of courses, the best problem solvers are in medicine/dentistry, then engineering/architecture, science/maths, law, IT, arts, business, education/social and nursing. The Australian Council for Educational Research began running the tests for the government in 2000. Findings from tests of third-year students in 2000 and students entering university in 2001 have just been released.
    The tests are subsidised by the government. The universities, usually, pay $10 a head for the tests.
    They consist of two hours of multiple-choice items and one hour of writing tasks.
    Students get a personal report which may be useful in impressing employers, and universities can monitor performance growth.
    ACER cautions that comparisons between the two tests – on entry and exit – are difficult because participation was voluntary and different students were involved.
    Only about 1600 students at 19 universities did the 2000 exit test, and about 2000 students from 20 universities did the 2001 entry test.
    But the test results so far show a remarkable consistency.
    The patterns by field of education for the other components of the test are similar to those for problem solving, with a few shifts in order. These are critical thinking, interpersonal relations, and report and argument writing. Among new students last year, those in medicine and dentistry led in critical thinking, interpersonal understandings and report writing, followed by the tiny band of law participants (18) in all three cases.
    Law students led medicine and dentistry when it comes to writing arguments, with arts students third.
    In arts, where graduates are well regarded for generic skills, students were also placed third in report writing, critical thinking and interpersonal understandings.
    The latter was the most prevalent skill for nursing students.
    IT skills may be included in future tests.

lchic - 09:17pm Mar 26, 2002 EST (#842 of 868)

Interested, therefore, to note Showalter's reference to world Doctors (above) .. as is seen these guys are right in there when it comes to getting to the core of the matter :) http://www.worldofyak.com/flops/flops.cgi?page=lyrics&for=goodness-gracious-me

lchic - 09:27pm Mar 26, 2002 EST (#843 of 868)

MAX COLTHEART: Well a delusion is a forced belief that is inconsistent with what the person knows and what everyone else is saying to the person.

Such as that your boss is about to get you and you're living on Mars, or whatever.

We want to know two things about those delusions, where do they come from in the first place and why do they hang around rather than simply disappear because of the persuasions of others.

KERRY O'BRIEN: What do you believe the answer is?

MAX COLTHEART: We believe anybody who is deluded must be suffering from two different kinds of cognitive and mental deficits.

The first one is responsible for where the strange idea came from .... (2) a problem with judging whether the beliefs are true or not http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/s514276.htm

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One wonders if the national paranoia related to 'war' is a type of schizophrenia

  • a behaviour
  • requiring management

rshow55 - 09:34pm Mar 26, 2002 EST (#844 of 868) Delete Message

Mmmmmm . . . or smart doctors.

There are some smart physicians - including the International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War http://www.ippnw.org/

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/07/opinion/L07NUKE.html
MD296 rshow55 3/9/02 4:36pm
MD441 rshow55 3/13/02 1:01pm
MD814 lchic 3/25/02 1:30am

lchic - 09:41pm Mar 26, 2002 EST (#845 of 868)

NOBEL - persepective International Writers(Afrian, French, Portugal, etc ) ... the writers look at GAZA -- they have 'the words', have comparisons, and know how to phrase questions.

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