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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
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- 07:38am Mar 22, 2002 EST (#752
There are ways to peel the lies back -- and we need to start
Speaking of diversion -- and patterns which, taken together, form
"big lies" - according to patterns well thought out and set out by
the Nazis, look at how Mazza responded in
to this, in MD rshow55
Showalter: It is easy to have fairly large
numbers of identical balloons - which each reflect light or radar
just the same - with the warhead in only one of them. At best, an
interception probability of 1/N , where N is the number of
balloons. That's one easy countermeasure -- and a number of other
countermeasures, that have also been discussed for years, are also
Showalter: Mazza, do you have a reasonable
reason for questioning the paragraph above?
3/21/02 11:27pm ignores the clear question, which is
central to the purposes of the board that he worked to
restrict -- to post only this:
"You still didn't identify your diversion
Probabilities are narrowing down.
Mazza, I'll answer your question, but doing so, will have to
remember the purposes of this board -- which may need some review.
Issues of "the big lie" and associations with Nazi practice are
being discussed heatedly, in public, between US Senators. I think
that is proper -- and a discussion of who is using the "big lie"
tactics is proper, too.
It seems to me that there is work, on these subjects, for
responsible journalists to do. "Trust us" should not really
mean "submit to us" . . . MD718 rshow55
3/20/02 12:39pm . . . not in America.
Here again is Eisenhower's Farewell Address http://www.geocities.com/~newgeneration/ikefw.htm
The very worst things Eisenhower warned of have already
But they've happened with key parts in secret - hidden from the
American people, from the Congress, and even, for long times from
the President. They've been hidden, and obscured, in patterns that
have involved much lying to America's allies.
But these dangerous patterns, which I believe ought to be
considered crimes, cannot stand the light of day - - not real light
- - not for long. Facts, established solidly enough, can be
powerful. Enron was dominant - deferred to -- respected -- on the
basis of a pattern of ornate but blatant deceptions. But the lies
were unstable - - and once some key facts solidified - with clarity
- and with many of the facts presented together in space and time,
so people could see -- the fraud collapsed. An admirable collection
of facts and circumstances, contributing to that instability is
Some key aspects of the US military-industrial-complex deserve
- 08:07am Mar 22, 2002 EST (#753
One doesn't have to deny the fact that people are dangerous, that
defense is needed - to be concerned for details -- because
proportion, and workable approaches have to matter. We're dealing
with matters of life and death, both in terms of what is done, and
what is left undone. We have to worry about oversimplifications,
sold as panaceas, that simply don't work as presented.
. Globalization Proves Disappointing By
JOSEPH KAHN http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/21/international/21GLOB.html
People are dangerous - - and if the rules are wrong, and
discipline and culture are wrong, the world can be far too ugly --
too much like a "war of all against all." --- or "war of all tribes
against all others."
NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF Visiting N.R.A. Heaven http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/19/opinion/19KRIS.html
"In Yemen, with you and everybody else carrying
around an assault rifle, with armor-piercing rounds in your
bandolier, with a couple of grenades in your pockets, you'll
really feel safe. "
RICK BRAGG Afghan and Pakistani Tribe Lives by Its Own Set of
"When a male child is born in a Pashtun village,
gunfire is the first sound he hears."
We need to deal with situations as they ARE - as complex as the
ARE - and get "end games" that can actually work. With people as
imperfect, dangerous, and deceptive as they can be.
THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN Pull Up a Chair http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/20/opinion/20FRIE.html
"There is no way that America will be able to
sustain a successful Middle East policy unless the U.S. is
prepared to station American troops on the ground, indefinitely,
around both Afghanistan and Israel.
Will the approach below work, without more?
. U.S. Might Pursue Qaeda and Taliban to
Pakistan Lairs By DEXTER FILKINS http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/21/international/asia/21AFGH.html
We know that the MD programs set out in public can't work
tactically. We have other needs. MD, in the ways that matter to me,
at least, appears to be a massive fraud. I'm not alone in feeling
We need solutions that we can stand, as the human beings we are,
with the needs that we and all other people can deny, but never
entirely escape. We need things to be balanced -- and the situations
we face are complicated enough that massive webs of lies cannot be
tolerated - by decent Americans, or by others with power to look and
react, elsewhere in the world.
For decency. And as a matter of life and death.
- 09:33am Mar 22, 2002 EST (#754
"The U.S. government view is that markets are always right,"
Mr. Soros said. "My view is that markets are almost always wrong,
and they have to be made right."
That's a revelation!
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