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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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- 01:22pm Mar 18, 2002 EST (#672
Superb references! lchic
When facts are clear, or can be clarified -- certain answers
about what cannot be done are often possible -- and both clear and
simple to explain.
Looking at the decisions trees - - including those in http://www.mindtools.com/dectree.html
and other good references above -- - a tremendous amount hinges on
questions of "how much?" Questions of "how much?" and "of
what" usually require words, pictures, and quantitative information
together, to fully understand - language alone, including language
that "sounds very good" -- often can't suffice.
Intelligent decision making has long been a part of our technical
culture. The people advocating the "missile defense" boondoggle in
the forms that have been acknowledged so far must be using
Either they are lying on many decisive matters or
they are criminally negligent in their duties, or both.
But for decision trees, or any rational decision making to be
useful - the facts have to be determined -- and unless there are
rules for getting specific things clear - - nothing ever
A time comes when the question are:
What could you prove in court, and how would you
go about it?
How is it possible to get enough force to bear to
force decent decisions?
The whole civilized world now has a big interest in getting some
facts straight about "missile defense" - - because it connects to so
If leaders of nations with an interest in getting some of these
facts straight asked for that clarity -- in an organized way --
they'd get it.
Just getting "admissions" wouldn't be enough -- there are
admissions that the MD systems can't work here -- very likely from
ranking people. But things have to be taken to closure - -
and the logic has to be connected to decision makers who can make
decisions from which consequences can flow.
- 03:43pm Mar 18, 2002 EST (#673
When reading up on Islamic philosophy on the previous MD board it
was seen that Islam was put in place to give standards. It was NOT
set in stone. The concept was that as economies advanced and
improvements came, so did their use of the rules.
The attitude of Islam Clericks that their law matters more than
the people subjected to it - is weired logic .... people matter!
The woman in Northern Nigeria (sentenced to death by stoning) on
an insignificant matter shows that people should have a HUMAN RIGHT
to access civil law - where she would have no case to answer.
AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL are now speaking up regarding the abuse of
power over individuals -
ethnics/disidents/alternateIdeas/SeeOUTSIDEthebox - post Sept11.
There are thousands of people who have been rounded up and
imprisoned worldwide who are guilty of nothing more than being
Amnesty have concerns that some leaders believe that Sept11 has
'given them permission' to place extreme violence on
disenfranchised, underdog, populations - who are looking for
recognition and improved rights.
- 03:56pm Mar 18, 2002 EST (#674
We agree on the "treatment" of woman. 15 Saudi girls were chased
back into a school fire and to their death because they were exiting
the school without the "proper Islamc dress"! Now the Saudis are
questioning their Islamic code police. These keepers of the rules
placed Islamic dress code above the safety of the individual. "Talk
about the law of rules rather than the rule of law!"
- 05:46pm Mar 18, 2002 EST (#675
mazza - "The Iranian airliner crew was culpable in its shoot
down. There are international "rules of the road" regarding air
operations in a declared war zone. The aircraft did not follow the
rules and as such was deemed a hazard. "
The USS Vincennes shootdown of Iran Air Flight 655 on July 3,
1988 which resulted in the deaths of over 290 innocent passengers,
and the U.S. Navy's attempted cover-up. - http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5260/vince.html
- 05:57pm Mar 18, 2002 EST (#676
This was ugly!
Where is your sense of reality, if not a shame?
Can't you see the truth just because it does not fir your
Here it is, thousends miles from America, the US Navy occupies
the International waters shared by many regional nations and
declares it a war zone! Your military background should have helped
you to understand that those US ships are constantly on a move,
crossing all Air and Sea lines of communications.
Following this logic, the current Global War on Terrorists makes
most of the Planet the War Zone. The Global Shooting Range.
Do you ever try to see things by someone else eyes?
- 07:07pm Mar 18, 2002 EST (#677
This was ugly...
Imaging you happend to be unfortunate to be born in one of the
countries the US bombed since WWII.
Imaging one of your family, your child, happend to be a
Would you be capable to do some ugly thing?
I thing I would.
- 07:19pm Mar 18, 2002 EST (#678
As any religion, is open for interpretation. By the people.
The Inquisition was an interpretation of Christianity.
The humanitarian bombing - an interpretation of Civility, Freedom
Speaking of the Golden Rule... Or the famost Christian "another
cheek"... Or the Holocoust... Or Hirosima and Nagasaki... Or the
usage of Gas in a WWI. Or the carpet bombing and Agent Orange, or
the DU ammunition and cluster bombs... Or the land mines...
It seem not all the evil was invented by Islam.
But they may learn. Fast.
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