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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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- 08:55am Mar 18, 2002 EST (#662
3/17/02 11:06pm includes this:
The cycle has to be breaked. Only the strongest
side of the conflict can afford to say sorry first.
Almarst is right, I think. There is a big problem - and to
some degree, it is going to have to be resolved by force (for this,
nonviolent force, from people with power and position, would do.)
In the 1988 presidential election campaign, George Bush Sr. was
asked about "an American naval blunder in the Persian Gulf (the
shooting down of an Iranian airliner and the abrupt murder of its
242 passangers) . . . . He refused to answer on the ground that he
would "never, never apologize for the United States of
America . . . I don't care what the facts are."
Source: Lapham's Rules of Influence by
Lewis Lapham, Random House 1999 Introduction,xxvii
George Bush Sr, president and father of the current president,
former head of the CIA and diplomat, was expressing some de
facto United States "establishment" doctrine.
How many mistakes, muddles, costs, and tragedies are made
possible or inevitable by such a doctrine, used in action by
Americans, and also by actors representing many, many other nations?
If this pattern were effectively challenged, in cases where
results mattered enough, a great deal might change.
. . . .
What might an effective apology for our shooting down of the
airliner have done to our relations with Iran?
Facts have to be established, and emphasized, not "brushed
off" -- if workable human relations are to be possible -- and the
facts are important enough. Apology may not always be necessary --
but it is frequently (putting the matter gently) an "option to
- 09:23am Mar 18, 2002 EST (#663
The American Inquisition.
Camp X-ray == HQ for Inquisitors
L i b e r t y
The STARS and STRIPES
No Stars seen
- 09:34am Mar 18, 2002 EST (#664
Lunarchic cited a nonviolent but important kind of warfare (that
the US, and countries in complex interaction with the US, might well
consider, both defensively and offensively)last year.
Marketing Brand Warfare: 10 Rules for Building the Killer
Brand by David F. D'Alessandro and Michele Owens McGraw-Hill,
2001 ~ Stock your arsenal with brand weaponry
Leadership, Strategy & Competition How to
Compete Like a Judo Strategist ! Movement, balance, and leverage:
Savvy executives use these principles to compete every day. In
this excerpt from their new book Judo Strategy: Turning Your
Competitors' Strength to Your Advantage, HBS professor David B.
Yoffie and research associate Mary Kwak reveal five techniques of
It isn't wise for a nation state to become identified with lying.
That's a source of leverage -- but a motivation for "disinformation
disarmament" as well. Lies are unstable.
Nor is it wise for a nation state to become identified with
absolutely merciless bullying.
If the United States had thought to set out an "advertising
campaign" to alienate lots of the world -- they'd be doing
many of the things they're doing now.
- 09:47am Mar 18, 2002 EST (#665
The Iranian airliner crew was culpable in its shoot down. There
are international "rules of the road" regarding air operations in a
declared war zone. The aircraft did not follow the rules and as such
was deemed a hazard.
911 proves once again that there are people who choose to ignore
the rules and use this to their advantage.
For people who espouse an anti missile defense posture you all
seem ready to use force,
"Almarst is right, I think. There is a big problem - and to some
degree, it is going to have to be resolved by force (for this,
nonviolent force, from people with power and position, would do.)"
You're no different than the people you disparage. Only, somehow
your force is okay because your hearts are pure. Give me a break.
I'm sure the little girl who was grenaded at a church service must
realize that her attackers were pure of heart and therefore her
death is okay!
Yeah, just like the triumphant pre hominid in the movie 2001 you
are ready to kill to achieve your goals.
- 10:20am Mar 18, 2002 EST (#666
This describes force -- that is not killing. MD656 rshow55
3/17/02 8:24pm .
If, for peace, we have to wait for "pure hearts" -- we'll wait
forever. But we can do better than follow your examples,
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