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war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
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- 09:03pm Mar 13, 2002 EST (#491
Of conscripted guys the most proficient killers were said to be
the former civillian tradesmen who did a full day of proficient
killing ... the general everyday guy can be converted into an
auto-killing-machine of a soldier .... so where does 'thinking for
oneself' come in to the ranks?
- 09:08pm Mar 13, 2002 EST (#492
"While throwing pebbles in the pond, ponder on the rings
produced thereby; otherwise such throwing will be but a pointless
This is an excelent translation. If it's yours - congratulations.
I did not realized you know Russian. I used to be a great fun of
And, if we already at that, I can't not to mention their's
"Even if you have a fountain - close it. The fountains also
need some rest"
Isn't it a time for us to take a note?;)
- 09:15pm Mar 13, 2002 EST (#493
No, sadly i don't know Russian .. i put a citation-link ...
Koz'ma Prutkov seems an interesting literary personality -- as i
said above NYT or Guardian or even my own Weekend
Australian ought to blow off the dust and give him back to the
world to amuse and entertain us :)
- 09:18pm Mar 13, 2002 EST (#494
There is a Kipling's line I will translate as well as I can...
"And if somthing goes wrong - its not our's fault
For so was requested by our fatherland
And here I go and play with my machin-gun
How easy it to be a solder, a solder."
- 09:32pm Mar 13, 2002 EST (#495
Saying that 'responsibility for actions' lies with the person
above, above, above ... in USA terms this would have to be the
president .. so it is important that the person in that role has
wisdom together with leadership.
Perhaps our Koz'ma Prutkov will re-appear via literature
or drama .. a joint BBC-RU production - costume drama - on the
Giants of literature set in the splendor of St Petersburg C19
don't see him here ... but there will be a reference ...
- 09:39pm Mar 13, 2002 EST (#496
Glagoly ust moikh
- 398 pages
Izd-vo "KnizhnaŽiža palata";
- 10:05pm Mar 13, 2002 EST (#497
Koz'ma Prutkov (1976) I Ego Druz'ia / Dmitrii ZHukov.
Koz'ma Prutkov (1972 ) : The Art Of Parody.
Russkie Poety (1970) : Tiutchev, Fet, Koz'ma Prutkov,
- 10:05pm Mar 13, 2002 EST (#498
At its hights it was presented as a symbol and manifistation of
American Optimizm and unstopable Success. Those past days I was less
of a believer of its collective wisdom then I am now. Its a very
symptomatic to the way the US Global War on Terrorism and its
overall policy is heading.
See Selling Uncle Sam - http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/5233
"America's problem is not with its brand -- which could
scarcely be stronger -- but with its product."
"It's no coincidence that the political leaders most
preoccupied with branding themselves and their parties were also
allergic to democracy and diversity"
"that beneath its stated commitment to democracy and
sovereignty, it is deeply intolerant of deviations from the economic
model known as the "the Washington Consensus." Whether these
policies, so beneficial to foreign investors, are enforced by the
Washington-based International Monetary Fund or through
international trade agreements, the United States' critics generally
feel that the world is already far too influenced by America's brand
of governance (not to mention America's brands)."
- 10:06pm Mar 13, 2002 EST (#499
One notes the US stockmarket is very concerned about TRUTH these
last days ... the public sense that there's too little of it
(truth), is reflected in the price fall.
- 10:07pm Mar 13, 2002 EST (#500
"We hear a lot about rogue states these days. You know, the
rogue states that refuse to ratify important treaties, the ones who
refuse to allow international inspections of their weapons of mass
destruction, the ones who ignore U.N. resolutions, who violate human
rights with impunity and who refuse to sign on to human rights
conventions? You know, those rogue states." - http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/5208
"It's hard for most Americans to think of the United States as
a rogue state. We're a democracy, after all. Our elections are free
and fair (well, some of the time).
"But our foreign policy is far less accountable to democratic
ideals, or to the global community than we like to think. The
problem isn't isolationism -- we're engaged (at least our military
forces and our U.S. manufactured weapons are) all over the world.
The problem is unilateralism -- our tendency to act out our
unchallenged 'super-power of super-powers' role without concern for
what others in the world think."
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