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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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(387 previous messages)
- 01:12pm Mar 11, 2002 EST (#388
"According polls carried out by ABC News and the Washington
Post, most US citizens (88%) approve of George Bush’s leadership in
the war against terrorism. At the same time, 82 percent of Americans
fully support him as president. Moreover, 85 percent of citizens
consider the anti-terrorist campaign in Afghanistan to be a success,
while 72 percent suppose that the “retribution action” should be
extended on other pariah states." - http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/03/11/26903.html
- 01:21pm Mar 11, 2002 EST (#389
For mazza, personally:)
If you want a holiday in space and have the means to pay for
it, Russia offers you the trip of a lifetime. - http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/03/09/26882.html
- 01:29pm Mar 11, 2002 EST (#390
GEORGIA DREAMS ABOUT NATO, BUT DREAMS DO NOT ALWAYS COME TRUE
The government of Georgia considered that yesterday’s decree
of the Russian parliament, in which the deputies condemned America’s
possible army presence in Georgia, was an attempt to interfere in
the home affairs of the republic of Georgia.
The foreign ministry of the republic claimed that such a step
did not assist in the development of the neighborly and friendly
relations. The decree, which was passed by the Russian parliament on
Wednesday, acknowledged the right of the people of Abkhazia and
South Osetia republics for the establishment of their state
structure – in case of the unfavorable process of negotiations
pertaining to the regulation of the conflicts between Georgia and
Abkhazia, and between Georgia and Osetia.
For Georgia, even a local conflict will be catastrofic.
But will the Caspian Oil light the fire of the WWIII?
- 01:40pm Mar 11, 2002 EST (#391
More Trouble in Georgia? - http://www.time.com/time/europe/eu/daily/0,13716,214818,00.html
Few in Georgia or Russia seem to think U.S. troops are in
there for the short term
- 01:42pm Mar 11, 2002 EST (#392
In order to completely dominate on the territory of the former
Soviet Union, the Americans needed a military presence in the
Caucasus. The best pretext for this was the struggle with illegal
armed formations. Afterwards a spreading of influence to Azerbaijan
and Armenia will follow. - http://emperors-clothes.com/news/already.htm
To entangle all the non-Russian former republics in a
U.S.-NATO dominated military command structure, one which will
dictate not only the foreign policies but internal political and
economic affairs in all of the affected countries. - http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/rozoff/tajik.htm
- 01:48pm Mar 11, 2002 EST (#393
It takes a time to read it all, but worth it -
'Why They Were Indicted'- http://www.icdsm.org/more/book.htm
- 02:15pm Mar 11, 2002 EST (#394
Almarst , you're making great posts, and I think they are
vital, for fitting our problems into context. Sometimes, if you had
an "island" of technical fact - - - it would rule out a lot of
misunderstanding -- and match up usefully to truer, safer, more
productive explanations. On the subject of missile defense, issues
of technical merit have been much discussed on this thread,
and I'd like to refer back what I think is a key discussion of them.
3/10/02 10:01pm ... MD353 rshow55
3/10/02 10:17pm ... MD355 rshow55
I commented to manjumicha2001 that I thought all the MD
systems now under US development, and discussed in the open enough
to talk about, were, by tactical standards, as "devoid of merit as a
herringfish is of fur" -
And suggested that if he wanted to discuss why in detail, for the
system that has soaked up most of the money and caused most of the
diplomatic trouble, he might download the Coyle Report http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/program/nmdcoylerep.pdf
and we can get down to cases.
I asked: "Mazza, why don't you download the report - read it,
and tomorrow we can get together, at a time of your convenience, and
get down to cases?"
I think that question is worth repeating from time to time. Maybe
some theories that have been called "conspiracy theories" happen, in
cases that matter a great deal, to be true - and consistent with
all the facts.
Surely, on issues of technical feasibility on which much
(including honor) rests -- things can be checked.
If some world leaders were actually attending to these questions
of fact -- a great deal might be clarified.
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