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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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- 12:13pm Mar 11, 2002 EST (#382
almarst , I think you're doing great posting.
I found your reference http://www.bernal.co.uk/Research/Racak.html
3/10/02 12:54am very interesting. Compelling. Disturbing.
A central question is how we check facts (including some in the
reference you posted) how we relate facts together, and how we fit
those facts into ideas and patterns that matter to us, for
understanding, for ordering of relationships, and for justification
of what we do.
"Facts" alone, whether they are right or wrong can't do anything.
They are inputs into decisions by people who have power of
decision about something.
Facts and ideas, combined together in space and time so that
people can "connect the dots", as Erica Goode says in Finding
Answers In Secret Plots http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/10/weekinreview/10GOOD.html
form the ideas that people and groups have. -- These ideas are
patterns, which work well enough to sustain action and belief in
some ways, though they may be totally invalid otherwise. These
ideas, constructed by "connecting the dots" may produce grossly
pathological results -- fueling hatred, wars, and cycles of
poverty. Or they may be correct.
To judge that, one checks the "facts" "connected together" and
one sees if the pattern conjured up fits more facts - -
including many more facts. The process of judging this, like the
process of putting the "explanation" together - happens in people's
minds - and can't be forced. But the matching process -- the
"connecting of the dots" -- is what effective persuasion is all
about. And the internet offers new ways, some shown here, of
connecting information in space and time that would otherwise be
diffused and unconnectable. That's a source of new opportunities.
In the case of Missile Defense, facts and relations set out and
referenced in MD84 rshow55
3/2/02 10:52am can be connected up to show how much fraud, how
much muddle, has motivated much of American defense policy. Setting
out the facts, and discussing connection of the dots, takes work --
and is important to the extent that people with power care about the
answers, and follow the logic.
The more well validated "dots" -- the more valid, checkable
things that have to fit together at the same time, the less the
chances for horror.
Some of the most horrible things in history - most perhaps, and
most now, are based on "ideas" that have been crazy - grossly out of
proportion -- ideas that neglect important things -- among them the
humanity of real human beings.
We're living in a terrible time. Facts alone aren't going to
solve anything. But facts, considered together, and considered, may
help solve a great deal.
But it seems to me that if enough people, including leaders, get
concerned enough, we have some soluble problems here. If they do
not, we don't.
It also seems to me that there's great stuff in the TIMES today.
I find this image, which accompanies Goode's piece, terribly
haunting. We need to understand, and deal with, irrational forces
and emotions -- lest manageable, modifiable stresses between
civilizations become causes for massive injury and death. http://graphics4.nytimes.com/images/2002/03/10/weekinreview/10good.1.jpg
Here's another image I find haunting - of a man reduced to
selling a child . . . http://graphics4.nytimes.com/images/2002/03/08/international/08hung.1.jpg
from Children as Barter in a Famished Land By BARRY BEARAK http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/08/international/asia/08HUNG.html
Many horrors seem not only terrible, but strange , and
stupid . Including many of the worst horrors. Maybe there's
- 12:15pm Mar 11, 2002 EST (#383
The democratic principle of open government is under pressure
from a US administration obsessed with secrecy and media
manipulation, writes Julian Borger - http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,662807,00.html
- 12:29pm Mar 11, 2002 EST (#384
"Finding Answers In Secret Plots"
It may be a paranoya. But, looking back at the history, its
undeniably was used by no other then the US in a great scale. Among
The falsified "facts" used as a reason for agression against many
nations (cuba, Vietnam, Nicaragua, even Serbia and Iraq)
The hysterical theories of Communist/Leftist/Jewish conspiracy
against the US.
And the current hystery of terrorism to prepeare the public for
any, however crazy, undemocratic and irrational, actions at home and
PLEASE, SHOW ME THE DIFFERENCE.
- 12:37pm Mar 11, 2002 EST (#385
Bedtime for mAzzA ?
- 12:54pm Mar 11, 2002 EST (#386
Jordan warns of "catastrophe" if U.S. attacks Iraq - http://webcenter.newssearch.netscape.com/aolns_display.adp?key=200203100922000230539_aolns.src
- 01:00pm Mar 11, 2002 EST (#387
"It remains more than ever the task of moderate people, the
vast majority of us, of all faiths and creeds, to speak out against
the extremists." - Prince Charles - http://portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/11/02/nmus02.xml&sSheet=/news/2001/11/02/ixhome.html
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