New York Times on the Web Forums Science

Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

Read Debates, a new Web-only feature culled from Readers' Opinions, published every Thursday.

almarst-2001 - 07:52pm Mar 10, 2002 EST (#335 of 386)

FLYING INTO TURBULENCE

"Unwarranted self-righteousness creates false perceptions of invulnerability. Did Western Europe learn nothing from its follies of the last century?"

This assumes that from no on, the Europe need the US protection. Against Russia... or afainst each-other. Not all would agree. The Russia, as other european countries before WWII where engaged innumerous wars in differen combinations of forces, goals, reasons and participants. The US wants to assume a permanent role of supervisor over the misbehaving continent;)

"Incredibly, even the most acknowledged scientific beliefs can be proven wrong by fresh, "out of the box", thinking"

But not the made above assumption?

"Criticism of the United States is coming from all quarters of Western Europe, driven by jealousy"

Out of the American narcisism, superiority syndrom and mithology. Applyes equaly to all nations, not just for the leat applicable one as the Europe.

"Dr. S. Fred Singer, President of the Science & Environmental Policy Project, states that NASA data confirms no significant increase in temperature neither for Europe nor for the United States over the past 7 decades."

Never mind Soth and North Poles. Why to worry if sun still bright over my personal head;)

"The European press is also strangely silent about a monthly toll in the hundreds of Chinese executions"

Could it be because the Chinese are not on the Crusade to convert the World to their "superior" values. By using all means disposable - money, covert actions and even by a brute force.

"The only reason anyone might oppose a strong defense is that it weakens a potential aggressor's offensive capabilities."

Mr. Martin is or preneds to be unfamiliar with a notion of MAD and meaning of Deterrance.

"Russia has already long been in violation of the Treaty by deploying heavy anti-missile defense systems for years"

A pure and simple lie. The Treaty allowes to place a limited ABM force around Capitals as Russians did around moscow and Americans decided not to do around Washington. A good exmple af a Flying Lie;)

"Bush's scholarship record surpassed that of his erstwhile opponent, Al Gore"

It surelly does not compliment the schools thet he attended;)

"Brussels."

One must be blind tnot to see the reason for EU as the only way to enable US-independent policy. Unfortunatly, that indeed will lead to less democratic and more burocratic Europe. But that is a direct result of US policy of hegemonism . As we all learned in physics, "The force of Action is always equal to the force of Counter-Action";)

"For Europe to put its strategic energy supplies in the hands of Russia"

Coming close to the source of a Washington's PAIN - the Europe must depend on US controlled energy supplies.

"One must not lose sight of the fact that Russia is concentrating its dynamism on becoming a superpower again."

Instead of diintegrating into the dust as was expected and designed. The Washington seemingly does not like the word "competition". Forget the anti-trust laws and the capitalistic rethoric;)

"alternative to Atlantcism and globalization"

True. If globalisation means US domination.

Mr Martin forgets a simple fact NO ONE LIKES HIS BOSS. ESPECIALLY FOREIGN!

lchic - 08:04pm Mar 10, 2002 EST (#336 of 386)

Let's guess the name of that BOSS .... err ... err.... "does it begin with a .. B?" ... err ...

----------------------------

re Penultimate post

For the last time before the hammer falls and the auction is over .... going going for a boondoggle ... and for the last time .... the very last time ... going .... going ... GONE!

"A boondoggle to you the man in the iron tricorne ... Boondoggle for your antique collection Sir ... Check or cash?" mazza9 3/10/02 7:37pm

rshow55 - 08:09pm Mar 10, 2002 EST (#337 of 386)

What an exquisite boondoggle - - 50 years of effort -- about 140 billion dollars to the cost - - more deceptions and evasions than one can easily think of (so many stories!) and nothing works yet, except for some tactically feeble stunts, at 100 million per copy.

What a conversation piece!

almarst-2001 - 08:11pm Mar 10, 2002 EST (#338 of 386)

It seems the GREAT WAR for ENERGY SUPPLIES which was I believe the reason for tw World Wars continues into the new Century. Possibly with much worst consequences. For all. Including the US.

I don't believe even mazza will escape it hiding out in the UPPER SPACE;)

lchic - 08:29pm Mar 10, 2002 EST (#339 of 386)

Ummm there's enough H O T ~ A I R to take him yon side of the stratosphere way out to nowhere space and beyond!

almarst-2001 - 08:35pm Mar 10, 2002 EST (#340 of 386)

Secret Plan Outlines the Unthinkable - http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-arkinmar10.story

almarst-2001 - 08:45pm Mar 10, 2002 EST (#341 of 386)

Zbigniew Brzezinski and the CFR Put War Plans In a 1997 Book – http://www.copvcia.com/free/ww3/11_09_01_zbig.html

It Is “A Blueprint for World Dictatorship,” Says a Former German Defense and NATO Official Who Warned of Global Domination in 1984, in an Exclusive Interview With FTW “THE GRAND CHESSBOARD – American Primacy And It’s Geostrategic Imperatives,” Zbigniew Brzezinski, Basic Books, 1997.

(45 following messages)

New York Times on the Web Forums Science Missile Defense