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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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- 07:25pm Mar 3, 2002 EST (#175
Quite often, facts do get sorted out. We have a mess here. An
extraordinarily large one.
A common ideology is not required.
Facts held in common is all that would be necessary get
much better adjustments than now exist.
And indignation isn't helpful. Even though I understand it.
The mass media often DOES do things well. And the failings of the
mass media exist, to some extent, everywhere.
If some fictions were under control, a lot would improve -- by
- 07:28pm Mar 3, 2002 EST (#176
20,000 Brits March Against War on Iraq - http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/england/newsid_1850000/1850879.stm
- 07:34pm Mar 3, 2002 EST (#177
Last week, the District of Columbia Court of Appeals
overturned one of the country’s last-remaining regulatory
protections against media monopoly, and ordered the review of
another - http://www.fair.org/activism/fcc-giants.html
- 07:38pm Mar 3, 2002 EST (#178
Britain should unhitch itself from the American war machine
and oppose military action in Iraq - http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,1284,661100,00.html
- 07:42pm Mar 3, 2002 EST (#179
CIVILIAN OBJECTS WERE NATO'S MAIN TARGETS Deciphered
shorthand records of Milosevic appearance at the Tribunal in Hague
in February "When the Yugoslavian problem is touched upon, more and
more people appear in the west as well, who appreciate the truth
more than the comfort guaranteed by humiliating implementation of
the political bosses’ instructions. It is to be mentioned here, the
western mass media and global information networks have been used as
a war instrument to tell the lies to the people. I am sure, the
truth will be restored there, those people who lied about
Yugoslavia, who turned the information war into a frontline war
troops with many victims, will be held up to shame" More details...
- 07:48pm Mar 3, 2002 EST (#180
Protests are nice -- but often discounted.
almarst , you may remember some of this discussion, last
March which I recorded in http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/170
there was a good deal of suggested detail. The pattern wouldn't be
particularly difficult, though it might require some funding - - if
some world leader actually wanted to get some things to closure --
the level of funding required wouldn't be hard to get.
MD956 (now deleted) "It seems that nobody has anwers to our most
basic questions about nuclear weapons, then the world needs them. .
. . Answers can be gotten by press people -- more might be
" Establishing FACTS beyond reasonable doubt -
and explaining these facts very broadly.
" Crafting a fully workable, fully complete,
fully explained "draft treaty proposal" for nuclear disarmament
and a more militarily stable world. Such drafting would, at the
least, make for stunningly good journalism -- that could be widely
syndicated among papers. Useful as that would be, I think the
drafting would serve a much more useful purpose. That purpose
would be actually getting the points that need to be worked out
for increased stability and nuclear disarmament set out coherently
- - to a level where closure actually occurs. That would involve a
great deal of staff work done coherently, quickly, and in
" work . . . . done IN PUBLIC --- say if some
Moscow Times staff, and people from a couple of US papers, some
Guardian staff, and people from some interested governments,
started an OPEN dialog together.
closing March 12
" Historically, presidents left a power vacuum
in American nuclear policy, and people like LeMay and his
proteges, and people in the CIA, and some contractors, filled it.
And now, that conspiracy, long past any legitimate usefulness, and
long since financially corrupt, is menacing the peace of the whole
world, and imposing huge costs on innocent people. "
Maybe I'm wrong about the facts. But the facts need to be
established, for good decision making, and if some leaders wanted to
get those facts established, they could be. It would be an easy
enough thing -- and would involve negligible risks to the leaders.
But it would require a level of interest and status that would
- 08:03pm Mar 3, 2002 EST (#181
3/1/02 11:21pm ... MD80 almarst-2001
(In MD80 almarst asks an important
question, simple in essentials, that will take effort to
establish to the level of certainty that count.)
3/2/02 8:42am ... MD82 rshow55
Facts, especially technical ones, can be checked to closure.
It takes a certain amount of force and status, to get it done
effectively. In comparison to the stakes, only a tiny amount. But
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