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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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- 05:58am Mar 2, 2002 EST (#61
THE KISSINGER CASE – A compelling account of Henry Kissinger’s
involvement in Chile, Vietnam and Cambodia, leading to various
catastrophic crimes against humanity. _____________________
Roger Morris, once a
close Kissinger colleague on the National Security Council, is
convinced of his guilt.
The program argues that Kissinger was
the principal architect of the Vietnam War and personally
responsible for the deployment of “weapons of mass destruction” in
Vietnam, as well as during the invasion of Cambodia.
war in Indo-China 58,000 American soldiers fell in battle and more
than 2 million civilians died. Recently released CIA documents
indicate that Kissinger could also be responsible for the 1970
assassination of Chile’s army commander General Rene Schneider,
designed to facilitate the fall from power of Chile’s newly
elected, left-wing president Salvador Allende.
be forced to answer personally for his deeds, or do the
conventions of war crimes apply only to some and not to others?
(From Germany, in English). PG CC
7.30 AS IT HAPPENED: THE
Underlines the absolute failure of the USA Congress throughout
the second half of the Twentieth Century!
- 06:14am Mar 2, 2002 EST (#62
What financial interests has Kissenger had ... would he have
$$interests in the military-complex / Oil ?
I'm interested in:
- Why minds think the way they do.
- What motivates those with power.
- Where their self-interests lie.
- What sorts of character they are with respect to 'greed' v
- 06:21am Mar 2, 2002 EST (#63
The Kissinger case, and the very close involvement of Kissinger
with the stable of experts and notables in CSIS, including Sam Nunn,
offer some very good reason for people, both in America, and
elsewhere in the world, to check US "establishment opinion" for
bias, or worse.
The questions in lchic
3/2/02 6:14am are worth considering for every individual in
CSIS, and other distinguished organizations - - and the "missile
defense" fraud-boondoggle offers very good evidence of how very far
from technical decency or reasonable good judgement the
"establishment" can be.
In the case of Kissinger, Friedman's quote saying that Kissinger
can "make Machiavelli seem like one of the angels of mercy"
is worth remembering.
- 06:28am Mar 2, 2002 EST (#64
The families of the dead remember !
- 06:41am Mar 2, 2002 EST (#65
They do, and we should remember, too.
Thomas L Friedman's review of Kissenger's Does America Need a
Foreign Policy http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/k/kissinger-01policy.html
...is titled suggesting an over-simplified, incomplete model -
beautiful in some ways, ugly in other ways:
Friedman titles the review
How to Run the World in Seven Chapters http://www.nytimes.com/books/01/06/17/reviews/010617.17friedmt.html
The piece includes this:
" What was said of ''The Prince,'' as Harvey C.
Mansfield Jr. of Harvard University explains in his translation,
will no doubt be said by critics of Kissinger. Mansfield wrote:
''Soon after being published in 1532,'' Machiavelli's book ''was
denounced as a collection of sinister maxims and as a
recommendation of tyranny, giving rise to the hateful term
'Machiavellian.' '' Kissinger's book is not a recommendation for
tyranny in any way, but it is very ''Kissingerian'' -- focused
more around power balances, stability and national interests than
American values. I have no doubt that Kissinger is as cynical,
mean and nasty a bureaucratic infighter and player of the game of
nations as his most venomous critics have charged. At times, he
can make Machiavelli sound like one of the Sisters of Mercy. But
having said that, one can still value the clarity of his thinking,
which is fully on display here.
One can value that clarity, from one perspective, and find it
ugly indeed if you are almarst , or looking at things from
the perspective of many other countries.
From Lchic: "Machiavelli - that scheming little prince of
darkness -- from a country that still seems much the same today.
It seems to me that, in nuclear policy, the Vietnam War, and much
else, the United States, behaving in "Kissingerian" fashion --
really was as ugly and blood-curdling as Friedman suggests.
We should stop behaving that way.
If we did, getting accomodations on the objectives of missile
defense would be a matter of course -- whatever those accomodations
were. They'd happen by simple negotiation.
It would be good for all concerned to become clear on how
technically corrupt the "missile defense" boondoggle has become.
Negotiations and accomodations based on lies are unstable.
- 07:20am Mar 2, 2002 EST (#66
Roger MORRIS The Kissenger Case investigated and checked.
What he found was that Kissenger forgot the
forgot truth of diplomatic lies happenings
forgot and substituted lies sequences
lies placing himself in a more favourable light.
Kissenger is depicted as a liar to be discounted!
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