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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 01:06am Mar 2, 2002 EST (#53 of 62)

GI said rshow55 3/1/02 7:51pm

3. We've seen that acheivement of widespread individual prosperity is impossible in the absence of individual liberty. Therefore we support individual liberty.

4. We've seen that there are those in the world who would destroy prosperity of others in pursuit of personal power.

The free-market environment is a precious resource that should be (and largely is) available for all individuals and nations to use. It is the infrastructure that can ultimately lead to a world where every individual has the opportunity to achieve their full potential.

If Nixon wanted to NUKE and he wasn't considered insane, then, those that follow - also not considered insane - might just be 'mad enough' to not understand the inhumanity an complex consequences of nuclear decisions.

lchic - 01:13am Mar 2, 2002 EST (#54 of 62)

mAzzA - there's no freedom in the USA, not when the State fails to have standards with respect to guns. It allows too many humans of all ages to be wiped by bullets for it to be considered a 'free' country.

mAzzA - there's no freedom in the USA, not when the State fails to have standards with respect to the ballot box. Were there standards and truth, then more people would opt into the system and vote for politicians to represent them.

mazza9 - 01:21am Mar 2, 2002 EST (#55 of 62)
Louis Mazza

lchic:Do you live in the US? What is the basis for your bias?

The Founding Fathers knew that man was imperfectable. they built a system with this in mind.

I appreciate the fact that you ARE perfect and deliver these pronouncements from on high, (say how is it up there on Olympus?). As for me, I just go about my life with all the freedoms that many are struggling to reach for. I have several members of my Toastmaster Club who emigrated from far away places like Brazil, India, and Pakistan. they came here for the freedom and opportunity that our imperfect society provides.

Where do you come from?

LouMazza

lchic - 01:40am Mar 2, 2002 EST (#56 of 62)

A system set up in the times of the founding fathers ... in technical terms would be equivalent to what - the first factory weaving loom ?

I'd be looking for upgrades in the quality stakes.

lchic - 01:44am Mar 2, 2002 EST (#57 of 62)

It's not 'your' Toastmasters mAzzA it's Toastmaster's international. Their aim is to take an individual and upgrade her/him in the individual quality stakes ... they do this by issuing praise for the good side, then add a suggestion for that persons next attempt at communication. An excellent philosophy. !

lchic - 05:20am Mar 2, 2002 EST (#58 of 62)

Nixon & Kissenger - are an example of ... !

What a team ..... !

Another example of the FAILURE of the USA CONGRESS to properly monitor and regulate taxpayer expenditure.

The 'SHADOW' administration IS shadowy. Decisions taken by shadows don't stand up to the light of day. The SHADOW opts out of accountability.

The war crimes of Vietnam.
Crimes against the people of Latin America.

Kissenger is still available to The Hague - why not!?!

rshow55 - 05:48am Mar 2, 2002 EST (#59 of 62)

Points I'll be interested in dealing with. But I don't think we ought to forget key points, that the administration's representatives would like to paper over, set out in rshow55 3/1/02 9:10pm

This thread is focused on the technical issues related to missile defense. It seems to me that the issues in

MD35 manjumicha2001 3/1/02 7:59pm ... MD36 rshow55 3/1/02 8:12pm
MD37 manjumicha2001 3/1/02 8:22pm

are quite clear, and on point.

I've said that the midcourse interception system is an utter waste - why don't we discuss why here?

I don't think the administration's position can stand the light of day. But perhaps they can show me wrong.

rshow55 - 05:54am Mar 2, 2002 EST (#60 of 62)

There needs to be a distinction between the interests of the American people, and the interests of the US military-industrial-oil complex.

If that distinction was clearly made, the world would be a safer, more hopeful place.

If the interests are different, or the same, the reasons need to be explained - both to Americans, and people in other countries.

I think the "shadow government" has gone unchallenged for so long that they are not only totally corrupted -- they've actually forgotten to be ashamed.

That can be endearing in a musical like " The best little Whorehouse in Texas" . . . . but that was lighter stuff. We're talking murdering, risking the death, and blighting the lives of millions of people here.

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