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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?

rshowalter - 03:38pm Sep 25, 2001 EST (#9853 of 9872)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

So far as I can remember (I can get you cites), doing this checking, on the basis of what can be accomplished based on open literature data and practice could be done without violating security laws. That is, if I interpret what gisterme has said, in the course of some (salty but clear) exchanges.

armel7 - 03:57pm Sep 25, 2001 EST (#9854 of 9872)
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Yes, you can refer to what you've posted before, rshowalter, if it is a legitimate part of a current post, not just a repost.

Also, how about now you wait for gisterme to respond to your 6 new posts before you post any more.

Thanks,

Your host,
Michael Scott Armel

rshowalter - 04:18pm Sep 25, 2001 EST (#9855 of 9872)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

Will do. Sorry to be a burden, and grateful for a chance to make my case.

mazza9 - 04:20pm Sep 25, 2001 EST (#9856 of 9872)
Louis Mazza

Scott:

A suggestion, how about we limit this forum to 15,000 posts. This would mean that "The Rshowalter Show" will be over before Thanksgiving. We can all give a hearty Thank God for your having limited this blowhard. I am surprised that your patience has held this long. The direction of this forum stopped being about the "scientific" aspects of missile defense as soon as he Rshowaltered up. I suppose this forum could be distilled down to a diplomatic tome on diplomacy in the cold War and post Cold War era.

Huh?

LouMazza

mazza9 - 11:02pm Sep 26, 2001 EST (#9857 of 9872)
Louis Mazza

Well, I watched this forum after my post

mazza9 - 04:20pm Sep 25, 2001 EST (#9856 of 9857)

Lo and Behold, FOUR hours with no show off in sight?

BMD will work. Our homeland defense must be layered to address all threats. With accurate surveillance and real time threat analysis we can "hit the bullet with a bullet". I sure don't want to see San Fran, LA, Chi, Dal, Mia, NY, or any other US city fried by North Korean, Iranian, Iraqi etc missile with a weapon of mass destruction on board.

Let's talk missile defense not "missive" defense.

LouMazza

kangdawei - 11:17pm Sep 26, 2001 EST (#9858 of 9872)

BMD will work. Our homeland defense must be layered to address all threats. With accurate surveillance and real time threat analysis we can "hit the bullet with a bullet". I sure don't want to see San Fran, LA, Chi, Dal, Mia, NY, or any other US city fried by North Korean, Iranian, Iraqi etc missile with a weapon of mass destruction on board.

Bears repeating.

And let me add one more thing: without missle defense, the USA starts to lose the political advantage. When Iraq has ICBM capability, it doesn't have to use that capability to start changing the political landscape in the Gulf, in the Mideast, and on the Eurasian landmass. Dramatically.

As was proved in the Cold War, weapons expenditures defeat governments. Reagan spend the Soviets into oblivion. Without ever once launching a missle.

The existense of a USA-missle-defence system will be a political weapon as much as a military one.

mazza9 - 10:16am Sep 27, 2001 EST (#9859 of 9872)
Louis Mazza

Hey Showoff:

My name is Louis Mazza, my posts can be found in the Future Energy, Global Warming and Space Exploration forums. I don't use an alias since I have nothing to hide. Your paranoia suggests that you are not fit to be discussing missile defense since your mindset can be called into question.

I was a Cold War warrior assigned to the 5th Bomb Wing at Minot North Dakota in the early 70's. I had Top Secret SIOP ESI access and worked in the Operations Plans division of the Bomb Wing. My job was to provide the communications support to the nuclear war planning actions and I was privy every aspect of the individual missions from take off to recovery. As the base frequency manager I was also aware of the testing and validation activities of the National Missile Defense system that was being installed midway between our base and Grand Forks AFB. This system was "traded away" as a part of the 1972 BMD treaty with the former Soviet Union, (which no longer exists so that treaty has as much force as the treaty between Czarist Russia and The Confederate States of America!!!)

That system would have worked!

Stop calling me GEORGE!

LouMazza

mazza9 - 10:31am Sep 27, 2001 EST (#9860 of 9872)
Louis Mazza

to what end?

LouMazza

armel7 - 04:02pm Sep 27, 2001 EST (#9861 of 9872)
Science/Health Forums Host

mazza9 -- Easy on the personality assessments, please, but thanks for the post.

Your host,
Michael Scott Armel

kangdawei - 07:25pm Sep 27, 2001 EST (#9862 of 9872)

Louis, interesting bio material you just posted. And I agree with you that the treaty with a non-existent government should no longer be viewed as binding.

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