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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?


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lunarchick - 07:59am Sep 19, 2001 EST (#9440 of 9449)
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Collaborators - Nazi styled Jeruselem.

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Program also took a brief look at Afghanistan. Seems the guy killed last week was the GOOD guy. His interest was in the Afghans and their country.

The troubles arose out of the desire for there to be an oil pipe line through the land.

The CIA seemed to be instrumental in installing the Taliban.

The recruits for the taliban include the Orphaned childen of war from the previous soviet invasion. These guys have been readed in depraved circumstance, fed on dogma.

The aim of the Talibahn is to install irreligiousIslamic governments - not democratic - in all the muslim nations.

Seems the guys who collaborated with the CIA during the soviet war were rewarded with cash and mansions_Pakistan.

lunarchick - 08:03am Sep 19, 2001 EST (#9441 of 9449)
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Is CIA 'foreign policy' ... and who is expected to gain from it --- like the USA Oil familes .. ever explained to Americans ???

One hears that 'the world'- 'geography' - may start to figure in the USA curriculum. Perhaps Coke could run a geographic competition ?

rshowalter - 08:07am Sep 19, 2001 EST (#9442 of 9449) Delete Message
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HOW TO SEARCH THE "MISSILE DEFENSE" FORUM

MD9057 rshowalter 9/14/01 2:26pm

gisterme and I disagree on some things, but he's recently joined me in asking that the search function be reinstated.

That would be useful, because the thread has been set up as a format for communication and consideration of a complex, vital issue by staffed organizations. I think that the chances for peace, and good decision, would be facilititated if staffed organizations looked at it.

The thread, which now fills 25 1 1/2' notebooks of text, and accesses by links perhaps 3-4 times more text, is set up as an "associative memory" --with enough detail for closure. It has, I believe, gotten results.

There are some details set out in MD9057 rshowalter 9/14/01 2:26pm . . . . Let me add another. It is easy enough to download the search listing, with links, to this thread, 300 entries at a time, using the "DISPLAY THREAD" button above. And store these search linst on disk, in a convenient file. Because there are so many entries, this saves considerable time for people wanting to follow what's been said here. (There are now 34 of these search listings, each with 300 entries.)

These listings have another use. Want to judge the quality and seriousness of effort on this thread? You can't read it all. But you can sample it. People who do so, I believe, are likely to be impressed, at least with the effort this forum represents, and I believe many will find that questions raised here, out of concern for the survival of the world, are worth checking.

MD9060 rshowalter 9/14/01 4:04pm ... MD9061 rshowalter 9/14/01 4:16pm

With respect to the postings cited in MD9422 rshowalter 9/19/01 12:15am ... they were posted on March 1, 2001, and gisterme must have been well aware of them, shortly thereafter. There are hundreds of careful, thoughtful postings from gisterme since that time.

lunarchick - 08:25am Sep 19, 2001 EST (#9443 of 9449)
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Total war - 2006 / Simon Pearson

    (new book publication - London)
Looks at war in the Isamic countries. Peason, on Afghanistan, noted the bases and fly-overs.

He noted that nations, other than the USA, were showing good diplomatic sense.

To go in and get OBL would require use of Special forces - from countries with elite teams - and that Afghanistan has difficult terraine.

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Quote from a New Yorker this week:

"YES! I'm worried about foreigners - because they're everywhere."

lunarchick - 08:29am Sep 19, 2001 EST (#9444 of 9449)
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P L E A D S

An Afghan refugee pleads with Pakistani police to be allowed to go with his mother to hospital after she fainted in a temporary detention center in the Pakistani border town of Quetta. About 400 Afghan refugees who crossed into Pakistan this week after terrorist attacks in the US have been transferred to a nearby refugee camp. (Picture: AAP)

lunarchick - 08:41am Sep 19, 2001 EST (#9445 of 9449)
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The Taliban is an easy target to choose because it has sheltered the chief suspect, has few friends internationally and is recognised as a legitimate government by only a handful of countries. However, this does not mean it is easy to attack. "The US shouldn't repeat the mistakes of the Soviet Union and try to fight a conventional war against an unconventional enemy," says James Phillips of the Heritage Foundation, a US think-tank. http://news.ft.com/ft/gx.cgi/ftc?pagename=View&c=Article&cid=FT39IW43SRC&live=true

http://news.independent.co.uk/images/editorial../_images/2001-09/afghan190901.jpg http://www.independent.co.uk/

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/

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