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lunarchick - 10:38pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#9024 of 9038)
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larry6117 "Weapons Labs and Nuclear Research" 8/19/01 4:08am

almarst-2001 - 10:57pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#9025 of 9038)

gisterme,

I repeat - this was a terrible and unexcusable act of brutality and terror. Deplorable by any sane human.

I only wonder why "a couple of thousends" of Serbian civilians (more then 90 children and about 3500 b DEAD several times more wounded) and I am talking about CIVILIANS does not touches your aprechention?

Taking in account the relative size of a populations (9-10 milions vs 300 milions) that would translate into more then 100000 dead Americans and several hundred thousends wounded.

More then 300 schools destroyed. Dosend of hospitals, roads, bridges, water and power systems, etc.

All inflicted by a country, most of its citizens don't even know where the Serbia is on a map. But chearefuly enjoyed the "wonders of humanitarian bombing" on their TVs.

Any second oppinion?

rshowalter - 11:03pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#9026 of 9038)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

That seems to me to be an extraordinarily good question. I hope a number of people, connected to staffed organizations all over the world, read the output of gisterme carefully, and think about what it means.

rshowalter - 11:03pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#9027 of 9038)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

back in the morning.

gisterme - 11:17pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#9028 of 9038)

aaphrodite wrote ( aaphrodite 9/13/01 9:00pm ): "Gisterme throw a link to your web site, a picture of yourself ... if you're big on truth and checking .. :)"

Don't have a website, aaphrodite. Probably wouldn't put it up if I did because I've seen how viscious some of the regular posters on this forum can get when they think they know where you are or they find out your real name. That's really pitiful, but a fact. When Lou Mazza first posted here I couldn't believe what I was reading. They were searching the web for Lou Mazzas! It was like a feeding frenzy! So, I prefer to maintain my pseudonym...I'm just plain ol' gisterme. The desire for anonymity has nothing to do with being "big on truth or checking", aaphrodite, although I'm big on both. In spite of all of Robert's rhetoric, and tangential reasoning (if it can be called reasoning) he's never shown anything I've written to be intentionally false because none of it has been. That's why I'm always confident in challenging him to give even a single example whenever he makes his periodic accusations. He never gives an example. He's only into talking about checking, not actually doing it. At one point I spent hours and hours doing research and calculations to show from public records why a laser could be used to destroy a missile using a re-integration of existing technology. He just blew it all off as "impossible" and a need for "miracles". Eventhough he promised, I don't believe he actually got around to checking. Did you, Robert? Didn't think so... I confess that I have been wrong before on at least one point (hair splitting as I recall) and accepted some correcton, and I've have said a couple of things that I regretted and voluntarily appologized for; but, I've always been truthful. I learned years ago that you don't need a very good memory if you stick to the truth. I think it drives poor Robert nuts sometimes. :-)

Everything I've written is there to be read...feel free to judge for yourself and challenge any of it if you like. I think I started posting at around MD 3,000-something. Don't know for sure. I'm definately with Robert in wanting the search engine back.

Haven't had much time to spend on this lately because I've been buisy with other things; but, I've been a bit numbed by the events of the past few days and find that expressing myself in this way is a good release. Argueing with Robert is distracting and usually not too challenging. :-)

Don't know how to post a picture here or that I would if I did; contrary to Robert's persistant false assumption I'm nobody you Robert or anybody else besides personal friends would recognize;but, I've been told within the last couple of days that I look like Ernest Hemingway. Others tell me Santa Clause, when I let my beard bush out. I think I prefer to be Santa-like myself, since I have more in common with him than Hemingway. Santa and I are both still alive and we have generally similar attitudes! :-) Robert thinks I'm a bearded lady...

rshowalter - 11:21pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#9029 of 9038)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

Condoleezza, you don't behave well under fire.

I'll be back in the morning.

almarst-2001 - 11:34pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#9030 of 9038)

I still didn't get any oppinion on my definition of terrorism.

As for the Serbia, just another fact for digestion: The total damage of "humanitarian" bombing on CIVILIAN infrastructure is estimated to be around $60bn. For the country with GDP of about 1bn (I believe). Which could be translated to about $60 trillion for US.

Speaking of attrocities...

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