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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?


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rshowalter - 03:21pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8940 of 8975) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

Good to see you, gisterme . Worthy cause? I think so, too. Getting rid of terrorism is a fine idea. But we need to do it so that it works.

Some points that are ringing very true, but ominously, about the war talk now.

MD1287 almarst-2001 3/21/01 10:05pm ... MD1289 gaddissio 3/21/01 11:54pm
MD1290 lunarchick 3/22/01 6:08am ... MD1293 rshowalter 3/22/01 8:10am

After the fighting, if extermination is ruled out, people have to find ways to coexist.

lunarchick - 03:24pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8941 of 8975)
lunarchick@www.com

The figure of 4763 is given as the number of NAMES they are looking for .... if this is published, some of the names may be around and 'ring home'.

rshowalter - 03:24pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8942 of 8975) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

Another point, listening to the war talk, occurred to me. Knocking out any offensive missiles would be an easier thing than defeating Bin Laden , or any other terrorist who may be involved.

When the US really finds itself threatened, it finds instantly that it has conventional military resources.

The best way to protect against nuclear missiles in the hands of rogue states doesn't take anything we've been lacking, save resolve.

Unworkable Buck Rogers equipment isn't needed.

mazza9 - 03:25pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8943 of 8975)
Louis Mazza

gisterme

I agree. One of the reports says that the NATO ministers are meeting and that they may implement Article V of the NATO treaty which states that an attack on one NATO ally is an attack on all. That means an 18 nation front against terrorism. Add Japan, Australia and South American allies and maybe we can deal with this issue intelligently.

I hope that President Bush pulls no punches at the UN. It's ironic that the Durban meeting condemned Israel of being racist while the slavery that exists in Africa is ignored. My church is sponsoring 5 Sudenese young men who spent the past 12 years in a refugee camp. They are guilty of being Christian nothing else. Wanna talk about racism Jesse? How about going to Africa and dealing with the real deal. By the Way I am for reparations. I believe that each former slave should be given $1 Trillion. All they have to do is report to the treasury and collect their check. Descendants needn't apply.

Lou

rshowalter - 03:27pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8944 of 8975) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

Notice how necessary allies are.

The main unilateralist thrust of the Bush administration has been undermining its alliances as fast as it can go.

Time to mend some fences?

lunarchick - 03:31pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8945 of 8975)
lunarchick@www.com

The TEXICUTIONER whose never blinked an eye at death starred in his own holiwood drama scene for CNN ... pushing the line America will take revenge.

BabybWsh was followed by the puppeteer himself saying he'd crawled out of his Wiscon hideaway and was went on to do the big wrap for the puppet .. and then went on to MAKE USA POLICY .. while the country was weeping .. by demanding that the fifth estate be expanded and the POWERS of the same be increased.

So catching the USA off guard - ElderBush has put you all on notice that he wants Congress to let through Bills that immediately expand the powers of the CIA - for your own good of course.

Now let me see ... the Texicution has put it on record that he can retrospectively decare anything and everything 'CLASSIFIED' and throw any one looking at truth, for truth in jail.

Now ElderBush is making the point that having the ability to classify words is insufficient. He wants power for the 5th Estate to classify all twenty six letters of the alphabet!!!

While you were weeping the devil was creeping.

Pity CNN didn't get time to do a little analysis!

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lunarchick - 03:35pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8946 of 8975)
lunarchick@www.com

The theatre critics of the media spoke of how visibly shaken the president was .... how visibly shaken can a Texicution get - not very.

My take was that he's realising, his father is realising, just how pathetic the Bwsh presidency is - has been. And wants to batten the presidency down by strengthening and building the muscles of the arms of the shadow!!!
Making the 11th a very black Tuesday.

lunarchick - 03:39pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8947 of 8975)
lunarchick@www.com

How upset can killer father Bush get ... remember this man was happy to send missiles on Iraq. Was happy in the knowledge that a lot of nuclear stuff was on these missiles. Was happy that the guys were given 'leathal injections' as they went to the desert.

BushElder had had full knowledge re events in Iraq for the year prior to the tvLoungeroom staging.

The world people were lead to believe the war was a surprise .... it wasn't ... preparations for it were in place six months before it happened.

lunarchick - 03:40pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8948 of 8975)
lunarchick@www.com

WHY are the AMERICAN power clique banging their shields with their swords tapping out the word

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