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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?

rshowalter - 08:03pm Sep 9, 2001 EST (#8726 of 8742)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

wrcooper 9/9/01 7:30pm I agree with you. Sometimes, I think community standards do very well. Usually when the facts are clearly and truthfully represented.

In terms of the reasonable sense of proportion of the people I know -- the missile defense program looks so dispropotionate as to be wrenchingly ugly.

All the same, I don't think it makes sense to dehumanize people like Rumsfeld, without some more information. Quite often "the road to Hell is paved with good intentions." -- and the question is -- when somebody asks you to "stop and check" -- what do you do?

I think we've got whole subcultures of people living in delusional structures, and living within systems that classify some very important values out of existence.

I personally believe that there is serious corruption, too.

That, I believe, needs to be shown in detail.

I believe it can be.

. . . . .

(I have some other things I have to do, and will probably not be back till tomorrow morning.)

lunarchick - 10:26pm Sep 9, 2001 EST (#8727 of 8742)
lunarchick@www.com

.... and the winner is ...

. "In our country," one of the Russians is quoted as saying, "we wouldn't let judges pick the president." Kaplan writes: "The justice added that he knew that, in various nations, judges were in the pocket of executive officials - he just didn't know that was so in the United States.

rshowalter - 10:29pm Sep 9, 2001 EST (#8728 of 8742)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

There are a lot of things that we're having to learn. And there are reasons for change in the United States. We can't just keep telling others to change, to fit our views, without meeting some standards of decency and efficiency ourselves.

I've tried pretty hard today, but there were a lot of things I hoped to get to that I just have to leave for tomorrow. But I'd like, in case anybody is interested in looking back, to emphasize

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rshowalter - 10:33pm Sep 9, 2001 EST (#8729 of 8742)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

Have to go.

Things are moving so that they could get a lot worse, or a lot better, pretty soon.

Time to stay awake.

Back tomorrow.

My comment about "same connective structure, different coefficients" wasn't casual.

It works in the "logic of international relations" as well. The things that look to me and many other people like corruptions and indecencies change the values in a lot of decision sequences. It seems to me that Bush is not only degrading, but impoverishing, the United States, by lying in a world where, most often, life is so complicated that the truth is the only real hope for improvement.

rshowalter - 10:43pm Sep 9, 2001 EST (#8730 of 8742)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

Brave man: .... http://www.christusrex.org/www1/sdc/tank-1.jpg

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