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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?

rshowalter - 08:20pm Sep 4, 2001 EST (#8472 of 8494)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

Rupert Murdoch is a go getter himself.

And doesn't have too elevated a view of human nature. Nor should we:
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The references above were gathered by Dawn Riley and posted on this thread #317-322 lunarchick 9/27/00 9:38pm

In the nuclear field, cycles of escalation of threat and mistrust have occurred, and continue. Many people of good faith, including many in the Bush administration, are working, with discipline and sophistication, to reverse this dangerous escalation.

To do so, it is essential to acknowledge a basic fact. Over long duration, a great deal of deception has gone on. By both sides - and sometimes the mutual deceptions have escalated, and have backed people into awkward positions, and had unanticipated or unfortunate or widely diffused consequences.

Deception carries costs - and can paralyze. When the existence of deception is acknowledged (and in military terms, who doubts that enemies lie to each other?) new possibilities open up.

lunarchick - 08:21pm Sep 4, 2001 EST (#8473 of 8494)
lunarchick@www.com

Nothing much on your Emperor in the press today Showalter ... not a problem regarding the altogther is there?

rshowalter - 08:25pm Sep 4, 2001 EST (#8474 of 8494)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

Read to the end. http://darwin.bio.uci.edu/~sustain/suscoasts/krismin.html

If the military-industrial complex were working on things they could DO, water supply problems, world wide, would be in much better shape than now.

Surprising how difficult it is to get things checked, even with incentives very large.

rshowalter - 08:28pm Sep 4, 2001 EST (#8475 of 8494)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

Instead, they're destroying their credibility, worldwide, by perpetuating a farce -- even after, by rational standards, they've already been caught.

The credibility of the United States, as a sociotechnical system, is being degraded by lies, told in public, that are obviously lies to many of the people being lied to.

lunarchick - 08:52pm Sep 4, 2001 EST (#8476 of 8494)
lunarchick@www.com

Brazil - CLEAR FELLING - has just passed a law enabling them to fell 80% of the Amazon! Suits the corporations - not the poor! Trouble brewing for the Americas.

lunarchick - 08:59pm Sep 4, 2001 EST (#8477 of 8494)
lunarchick@www.com

Poetic from a Russian who made a name for himself.

rshowalter - 09:36pm Sep 4, 2001 EST (#8478 of 8494)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

Beautiful !

almarst-2001 - 09:50pm Sep 4, 2001 EST (#8479 of 8494)

The CIA Goes Primetime: Is History Repeating Itself? - http://www.fair.org/articles/cia-cbs.html

almarst-2001 - 09:56pm Sep 4, 2001 EST (#8480 of 8494)

U.S. admits secret germ research - http://www.msnbc.com/news/623713.asp?0si=-

"CIA built factory in Nevada desert during Clinton years"

almarst-2001 - 10:03pm Sep 4, 2001 EST (#8481 of 8494)

Forward, march ... into space - http://www.msnbc.com/news/546843.asp

"Pentagon has big plans for combat in the cosmos"

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