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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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- 07:31am Jul 30, 2001 EST (#7599
Nuclear terror is an American invention and development. We've
used threat and terror, very effectively, for a long time. If we
took action, and acknowledged what we did, then effective nuclear
disarmament would be possible -- and much other progress toward
increased peace and decency would be possible. We could, at the
least, get to the point where nuclear risks were no larger than many
of the natural disaster risks we cope with.
We need to know what has been done.
THREATS TO USE NUCLEAR WEAPONS: The Sixteen Known Nuclear
Crises of the Cold War, 1946-1985 by David R. Morgan , National
President, Veterans Against Nuclear Arms Vancouver, Canada March 6,
The potential for subversion of the constitution and democracy of
the United States , and for fraud, is very great, given the
mechanism set up in Eisenhower's time, that has gone with little
supervision, and with many ways to enrich people for private gain,
for more than 40 years.
It seems to me that there are reasons to suspect the Bush
administration of betraying the interests of the United States in
very important, terrible ways.
Perhaps there's another explanation for the performance of the
people close to gisterme -- - the top group in the
administration, probably including both Bushes. But I don't see it
But it should also be said that the problems have been going on
for a long time -- in significant ways, since Eisenhower's time.
7/10/01 4:00pm . . . MD6856 rshowalter
- 09:19am Jul 30, 2001 EST (#7600
The day the circus
came to town. Turning us into a Pacific launch pad, they bought a
- 09:46am Jul 30, 2001 EST (#7601
In Australia, Rumsfeld and Powell talked on re-establishing
military contacts with Indonesia.
Congress has reasons to be wary of our Indonesian involvements,
especially with an administration closely allied with Kissinger and
From Henry Kissinger on Trial: A Guide to the Controversy
Surrounding the Diplomat which was featured on
Britannica.Com in February 2001
6/22/01 1:05pm ... MD5785 rshowalter
. MD5787 rshowalter
In 1975, the government of Indonesia invaded and annexed East
Timor, an independent and sovereign nation-state, and killed
approximately 200,000 of its inhabitants—roughly one-third of its
population (the largest proportional genocide since the Holocaust).
Kissinger and President Ford gave approval for the invasion to
Indonesia's dictator, General Suharto, who received economic and
military aid from the United States. This approval, argues Hitchens,
makes Kissinger complicit in crimes against humanity.
Encyclopædia Britannica on East Timor
Encyclopædia Britannica on Indonesia
. East Timor (from Time.com ) http://www.time.com/time/daily/newsfiles/timor/
. Dossier: A relatively painless primer on the
history of the conflict in East Timor (from Mother
Jones ) http://www.motherjones.com/east_timor/dossier/
. East Timor: Questions & Answers (from Z
. We helped them descend into hell (from the
. East Timor: Long Road Ahead (from the BBC) http://news6.thdo.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_646000/646393.stm
- 09:57am Jul 30, 2001 EST (#7602
The worry re the Indonesian Army is that they set up milita who
in turn bully, beat, and kill the local population. This is
happening now on the Islands with mineral resources. In West Papua
the technique is to move Indonesians onto the Island - who inturn
outnumber the original inhabitants - whose land was stolen. The
wealth is being drained to the East Javanese. Suharto (and family)
still have vast holdings - with money - to pay private armies to do
their dirty work. I doubt if Megawatti will be a human rights
champion .... more likely to put the Army in charge of the country
and let it do what it wants.
The Indonesian Army has people who were trained in Oz - perhaps
they should include info re moral education and ethics - and hope it
- 10:10am Jul 30, 2001 EST (#7603
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