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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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- 09:57pm Jul 29, 2001 EST (#7589
Interesting stuff. I'll read again, but a thing that strikes me
is this. Patterns documented by almarst , again and again,
and not by now subject to much dispute in essential ways, are acting
against other ideals that Americans and their government
stand for. In addition, we see technical decisions, on missile
defense, grossly at variance with standards of careful mensuration
and judgement that our government institutions know about and often
practice in exemplary fashion.
Some things to be proud of, for sure. But other things to be less
6/22/01 1:05pm ... sets out Henry Kissinger on Trial: A Guide
to the Controversy Surrounding the Diplomat from the
Encyclopedia Britannica web site --February 2001
4/28/01 7:25am ... MD2690 rshowalter
4/28/01 7:30am ... MD2692 rshowalter
If we emphasized the ways American does well, and get rid of some
old ugliness, and some ongoing fraud, the US, and the whole world,
would be more beautiful, more prosperous, and safer.
- 10:05pm Jul 29, 2001 EST (#7590
For example, the entire body of "militarization of space" work,
on which Rumsfeld is basing so much, has no merit at all, and the
responsible engineers involved with it have to know it. It is still
hard to shoot down U-2's, and we've yet to get the Patriot missile
There are large bodies of fraudulent, misleading work, that can
be shown, beyond reasonable doubt, to be grossly susbstandard, being
backed by organizations that know better and are degrading
themselves, for money, and because they've been so compromised, for
so long, that the people involved see no way out.
This should be fixed.
If Americans don't insist on it, nation states that deal with us
- 10:14pm Jul 29, 2001 EST (#7591
It is, however, somewhat worse than they know, becaue there is an
error, in a computer algorithm that they use again and again, that
can and does generate explosive errors, under conditions that
matter, but which they are not checking.
The problem itself is interesting -- but the human processes that
have kept the issue from being looked at are interesting, too. It is
an example of "paradigm conflict" -- but not one that is entirely
The discrepancy between claims and performance by the "military
industrial complex" has been massive for a long time, and now the
Bush administration, to keep the game going on, is threatening and
disrupting the whole world with plans that are frauds (impure but,
nontheless, fairly simple.) These frauds have a common structure. At
the levels of words, and pretty pictures from commercial artists,
they "look good" -- or can be made to look good. But the numbers are
grossly, grossly, wrong, again and again.
If some basic facts could get checked, in public, for score,
about what the "military industrial complex" actually has
working , then the world would be close to many accomodations
that would make things better.
- 10:29pm Jul 29, 2001 EST (#7592
'Wilson's Ghost: Reducing the Risk of Conflict, Killing, and
Catastrophe in the 21st Century' by ROBERT S. McNAMARA and JAMES
"As we look back from the 21st century on the
events of the 20th, we cannot help being struck by the enormity of
the human carnage . . . http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/29/books/chapters/29-1stmcnam.html
'Wilson's Ghost': An Anti-Machiavellian Handbook by JAMES
"Robert S. McNamara and James G. Blight's new book
embraces the Wilsonian notion that American foreign policy must be
grounded on the bedrock of morality .... http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/29/books/review/29CHASET.html
McNamara and Blight are clearly, inescapably right that morality
must be involved in American foreign policy decisions.
Bill Casey thought so, too. He did things he knew were
terrible, but he tried to keep score.
MD 7385 rshowalter
7/24/01 8:13pm . . . MD6057 rshowalter
. . . .
Sometimes the issues involved are reasonably and inescapably
personal , and depend on facing the truth, even when not all
of it is pretty.
Vietnam Advance, and Pullback by JAMES BARRON http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/26/nyregion/26BOLD.html
"DANIEL ELLSBERG, who made the Pentagon Papers
public 30 years ago, wants a face-to- face chat with ROBERT S.
McNAMARA, who was the secretary of defense during the Vietnam War.
Yesterday, Mr. McNamara's publisher said Mr. McNamara had given a
conditional green light."
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