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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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- 11:06am Jul 25, 2001 EST (#7432
Perhaps, even if it cannot be done in the United States, the
leaders of these countries can insist on getting some key issues
dealing with missile defense, and related issues of military
For the sake of the whole world, perhaps for the sake of the
United States most of all, this needs to be done.
- 11:08am Jul 25, 2001 EST (#7433
The United States, admirable in so many ways, a leader in so many
ways, may have to be a humbled follower here.
Other ways might be nicer. But perhaps this is the way a more
peaceful, rational, prosperous world will have to come.
In the alternative, the United States, including both government
and people, are going to have to come to terms with some basic facts
that are now being evaded.
- 11:20am Jul 25, 2001 EST (#7434
Consistency and muddle are to be expected. But some good things
are happening. People are making adjustments, and old horrors are
giving way to more beautiful adjustments.
Hanoi Welcomes Powell, the Foe of 3 Decades Ago By JANE
Powell Hints That Beijing Will Release Scholars Soon by
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/25/international/25WIRE-POWELL-CHINA.html
On World Stage, America's President Wins Mixed Reviews by
DAVID E. SANGER http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/25/international/25ASSE.html
- 11:25am Jul 25, 2001 EST (#7435
Sometimes the truth is "somehow, too weak" ... MD4528 rshowalter
6/5/01 9:48pm ... but it can gain strength, with effort, and
that is becoming much more true, because the internet can so much
strengthen the power of one. http://www.christusrex.org/www1/sdc/tank-1.jpg
Ideas, when they are checked for consistency and hold up, again
and again, have a power of their own. And people are persuaded, and
come to act to together.
People backed only by military power and lies can find
themselves, after a time "somehow, too weak" themselves.
- 08:52pm Jul 25, 2001 EST (#7436
Rice Holds Arms Talks in Moscow By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/news/AP-Russia-US.html
MOSCOW (AP) -- National Security Adviser
Condoleezza Rice met with Russian security officials over arms
issues Wednesday, part of a U.S. attempt to work out a dispute
with Moscow over Washington's plans to build a national missile
" Rice's visit was to lay the groundwork for
consultations agreed to by President Bush and Russian President
Vladimir Putin in Genoa, Italy, on Sunday. The presidents said
they would link talks on missile defense with talks on reducing
the overall number of strategic nuclear weapons.
" Rice said the two countries needed to work
out a new security arrangement to replace the balance of fear that
held sway during the Cold War between the West and the Soviet
Union, which broke up in 1991.
Comment: A new balance of fear, with smaller and more
proportionate penalties and threats may be possible. Both sides will
have the potential to "threaten"each other, in some sense of the
word "threat" - under any imaginable and practical circumstance. And
definitions of words like "threat" and "trust" are going to have to
matter very much. MD4514-4517 rshowalter
6/5/01 12:44pm If questions of the meaning of terms, in
practical qualitative and quantitative contexts, do arise, as they
may, perhaps the choice of an "umpire" on word meanings nominated by
Prime Minister Blair, in consultation with the Queen, might provide
expeditious and honorable clarity. When negotiations are in good
faith, clarity is useful to both sides. With an internet linkage,
clarifications, if needed, could be clear and quick.
" ``The Cold War is over, and it is time to
think about a new basis for cooperative relations,'' Rice said on
Russia's ORT government television.
" ``It is absolutely critical, very important,
that we replace the old basis of threat against one another,
threat to annihilate one another, with a new basis of cooperative
ways,'' she said after a meeting with Security Council head
Vladimir Rushailo. ``We should not want to hold on to that old
Comment: It should be possible to have Mutually Assured
Deterrance , with reasonably proportionate means, without the
current, disproportionate Mutually Assured Destruction of the
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