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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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- 08:20pm Jul 24, 2001 EST (#7390
After that week of dialog, I felt I understood the Russians
better, and hoped that, if the Russians could understand these
things, they might be able to sort out some of their internal and
international problems better than before.
I don't know if it has worked. But it seems to me that the
Russians have done pretty well in a lot of areas since March, and
almarst , Dawn and I have kept talking. (There have been 6258
postings since we cited "Muddle in Moscow" http://www.economist.com/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=533129
We've also had a lot of dialog with our "Bush administration
stand-in" gisterme , starting with a powerful one in his
first posting .. MD2997 gisterme
5/2/01 1:09pm ... that has clarified a lot. almarst has
paid attention to that dialog.
Has all this work been useful? Dawn and I have tried to make it
It seems me that, if Bill Casey was looking down,
he might be smiling.
Maybe laughing at me.
Hard to know.
- 09:04pm Jul 24, 2001 EST (#7391
People, good-bad ideas, money ..
'Over the years, the diminutive
dynamo helped amass $50 million in political war chests'
$50m could probably put to more interesting uses than ensuring
an electoral candidate.
- 09:22pm Jul 24, 2001 EST (#7392
The Nazi's who were attracted into and influenced, and still
influence, USA political international thinking have a philosophy
that is unacceptable to most.
On history, Adams said lunarchick
7/20/01 8:02pm history is NOW. Not yesterday, rather NOW ...
which will become yesterday. So we look at the future, live in the
present making history, and reflect back upon it when social
historians pick it for patterns and focus.
The most important now group who forge both future and past are
engineers, of whom there is always a shortage. Talking with an
Aussie engineer i learned this: "Tell an Engineer the problem -
and s/he will set out to find a solution" So Engineers are
problem solvers. There are lots of problems to be fixed. This raises
the question - 'Why does the USA lasoo in so many, only to tie them
up in MD knots and deny them to the world communities who have
problems and needs - that can easily be fixed?'.
Listening to a speaker regarding the world 'clean-up' conferences
happening this week, she said, we were told that to fix this or that
problem was 'too expensive' ... reports were produced to back up
figures. Eventually the clean-up legislation went through in an
individual country (say re air pollution), and it was found that the
cost was far, far, less than the rebuttal suggestion - additional to
which there were beneficial spin offs.
- 10:01pm Jul 24, 2001 EST (#7393
Engineers need to work within financed frameworks, solutions are
expensive, yet inexpensive, but people need steady salaries. A
steady wage, a steady job ... yet little job satisfaction ... occurs
when people are tied into a non-functional 'big picture'.
...' try to ensure a minimisation of mindless labour in order
to maximise the time available for creative activity both inside
and outside "work." This is to be achieved by free cooperation
between equals, for while competition may be the "law" of the
jungle, cooperation is the law of civilisation. This cooperation
is not based on "altruism," but self-interest As Proudhon argued,
"Mutuality, reciprocity exists
' Cooperative engineering efforts that fit into a known,
progressive, socially approved big picture will appeal to
"Goods, as now, will be produced in greater variety, for
workers like producing different kinds, and new models, of goods.
Now if some goods are unpopular, they will be left on the shelves.
. . Of other goods more popular, the shops will be emptied. Surely
it is obvious that the assistant will decrease his order of the
unpopular line and increase his order of the popular."
[Syndicalism, p. 55] An interesting point re missiles is that
they are all still on the shelf - rusting in silos. These goods may
be ordered yet may never be used. Working on these projects that go
nowhere will produce boredom.
The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for
curiosity. Ellen Parr
- 10:04pm Jul 24, 2001 EST (#7394
They ought never to be used. The damn things are unbearably ugly,
unthinkably dangerous -- and we should junk them.
If Russians and Americans agreed on some key things ----
after some hard work, we could.
I made a suggestion, that I liked for practical and ceremonial
reasons, on September 25th.
People, both young and old, could understand what I'm suggesting,
and people, including children, could remember it.
9/25/00 7:32am ... MD267 rshowalt
9/25/00 7:35am ... MD269 rshowalt
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