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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?

rshowalter - 10:12pm Jul 4, 2001 EST (#6596 of 6614)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

You shouldn't have to be too smart to see the argument here:

A Memo From Osama by THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/26/opinion/26FRIE.html

rshowalter - 10:23pm Jul 4, 2001 EST (#6597 of 6614)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

No monkey would have been perverse enough to participate in building or running Auswitz ... MD6125 rshowalter 6/27/01 8:37am or in the building and delivering of nuclear weapons that will reduce the world to a dead ball, leaving, for just a while, more rotting unburied corpses than any human being could count.

rshowalter - 10:24pm Jul 4, 2001 EST (#6598 of 6614)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

Or, with such stakes, asking for support for control systems that could not possibly work ... when decent conduct and careful negotiation could work.

lunarchick - 10:27pm Jul 4, 2001 EST (#6599 of 6614)
lunarchick@www.com

Infrastructure Russia: Aeroflot

Putin has promised to get tough on Safety standards - a commitment to standards equal to west has been made - the problem is $money$ to implement them.

rshowalter - 10:28pm Jul 4, 2001 EST (#6600 of 6614)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

All through Europe, I bet he has more good will than he thinks -- and if he works at all carefully, he'll get his money.

Doesn't have to deal with the US to do so.

lunarchick - 10:44pm Jul 4, 2001 EST (#6601 of 6614)
lunarchick@www.com

It's been established on this thread already that the U$ will 'help'
but only in exchange for OIL wells!

Anything re 'monkeys' in this address ?

rshowalter - 10:48pm Jul 4, 2001 EST (#6602 of 6614)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

I wish that were more of a joke, and funnier.

A big thing about oil wells is, how easy it is to shuffle money where they're involved.

That's true of oil fields , too.

Want to "endow" a political group? Using geopolitics, it could be simple -- but some oil property.

rshowalter - 10:50pm Jul 4, 2001 EST (#6603 of 6614)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

If you want a sense of how easy it can be to shuffle money in the oil business, go to Google and search Carlyle .... when I did it, it was 37 search pages. That was a while ago. But there's little limit to how much money you could "launder" that way, and through banks as well.

rshowalter - 10:58pm Jul 4, 2001 EST (#6604 of 6614)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

The potential for impropriety surely exists. And the pattern shown in Elder Bush in Big G.O.P. Cast Toiling for Top Equity Firm by LESLIE WAYNE March 5, 2001 http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/05/politics/05CARL.html?pagewanted=all are ugly.

MD5833 rshowalter 6/22/01 6:25pm MD2623 rshowalter 4/26/01 9:19am MD4675 rshowalter 6/9/01 8:16pm (many citations)

Ways to make monkeys of "the system" ? . . . . from Prescott Bush on -- the Bush family knows how.

rshowalter - 10:59pm Jul 4, 2001 EST (#6605 of 6614)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

And not always in good causes, either.

Search Nazi.

And read what gisterme writes, to get a sense of how thin the sense of propriety can be, regarding evidence, and the killing of large numbers of people.

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