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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 05:08pm Jun 19, 2001 EST (#5472
of 5475) 
Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Friedman's phrase
" I have no doubt that Kissinger is as cynical,
mean and nasty a bureaucratic infighter and player of the game of
nations as his most venomous critics have charged. At times, he
can make Machiavelli sound like one of the Sisters of Mercy."
can't have been meant lightly, when one considers what
Kissinger's critics have charged.
rshowalter
- 05:12pm Jun 19, 2001 EST (#5473
of 5475)
Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
THAT is the core concern almarst has expressed, and
backed up with argument and references, on this thread, again and
again.
I think he has an extremely valid point.
**
Do some of Kissinger's policies look like Nazi policies to me?
I've said so, not as name calling, but on specific bases that I can
repeat -- the analogy between American military function and German
function as shown in Casablanca is too close for my comfort,
or almarst's .
That needs to change. Change it, and it seems to me that
all the other problems of security and peace become tractible for
the first time.
rshowalter
- 05:16pm Jun 19, 2001 EST (#5474
of 5475)
Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
I'd say, in terms of the expression of disciplined beauty
that I've expressed on this thread a few times, that Kissinger is
beautiful in some ways, in terms of some reasonable
assumptions (considered in isolation)
but also very ugly in terms of some other concerns, that
are real issues.
We should fix the ugly parts of US foreign policy and military
function.
almarst doesn't have problems acknowledging many of the
good things about the US, -- and I don't think Putin would either --
but the ugly, inhumane things are a crucial concern for him.
America would be better, and safer, if we adressed these
concerns.
almarst-2001
- 05:25pm Jun 19, 2001 EST (#5475
of 5475)
rshowalter
6/19/01 1:20pm
Robert,
Sorry, but I can only speak of own feeling. However, during the
bombing compain against Serbia I noticed a very critical of US-NATO
publications in the mass media all over the world. Including some
NATO countries. I don't know how lasting this effect will be. It
seems the MD may only reinforce the sentiment and make things even
worst.
Even less can I tell about "feeling protected by US". In this
category I would tentatively put Israel, Taiwan, Arab "Oil Kingdoms"
and possibly, Japan.
Again, based solely on my own PERSONAL intuition.
   
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