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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?

amacd - 10:08am Jun 8, 2001 EST (#4604 of 4609)
For what the global corporate elite are doing to average people everywhere, the New York Times serves the same function as K-Y Jelly

Pouring money into the NMD corporate welfare system and breaking the ABM treaty would violate international law that the US proudly agreed to in the Outer Space Treaty of 1967, to keep space free from war ---- a point, by the way, which the corporate media have not been reporting, perhaps because it might remind people that even while the US was beginning involvement in Vietnam, that we were still a somewhat innocent and idealistic country then, and that people believed that the new frontier of space was wonderful and needed to be protected from the rapaciousness of a corporate war dominated, Gen LeMay-type pathology.

But in the intervening thirty years the US has been pushed by corporate propaganda to a position where nothing is sacred, and where the constant movement to a near-fascist radical right norm has been so pronounced that most people have to think hard to even remember a time in the 60's when any sense of innocence, world community, and thinking of a better future existed. Now all such thoughts have been replaced by a me-first, hierarchical classist society of pro-corporate, elite goons, out to "do whatever it takes" to increase the pace of world destruction via scorched earth exploitation and competition among these alien beings called global corporations ---- which have now stolen democracy, raped the world, and brainwashed normal human thought with their incessant media dominated propaganda campaign.

What the American people (and the people of the world) really need is not an ABM or NMD against some trumped-up enemy missiles that can't even reach us, but a truly effective ACD (anti-corporation defense) against the world killing, alien, global corporations that are already destroying the world and all human/humane community of life as we watch.

lunarchick - 10:37am Jun 8, 2001 EST (#4605 of 4609)
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Bwsh set up a team, pulling Scientist in from the USA Scientific Academy, they reported back.

Bwsh will now be setting up a new team lead by the VICE President to look at the same issues.

Either the work of the scientists in the USA isn't worth a cracker .... or the President is

lunarchick - 10:55am Jun 8, 2001 EST (#4606 of 4609)
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~ http://totalsearch.ft.com/totalsearch/index.jsp?do=basic&query=kyoto
~ http://www.newscientist.com/search/wholesiteresults.jsp?y=17&qu=kyoto&x=17&so=Rank%5Bd%5D&sd=1&sh=0 ~ http://www.unfccc.de/resource/docs/convkp/kpeng.html Kyoto protocol Document;
~ http://news.ft.com/news/worldnews/us
Italy too flexible ? ~ http://news.ft.com/news/worldnews/europe

dirac_10 - 10:56am Jun 8, 2001 EST (#4607 of 4609)

amacd - 10:08am Jun 8, 2001 EST (#4604 of 4605)

Pouring money into the NMD corporate welfare system and breaking the ABM treaty would violate international law that the US proudly agreed to in the Outer Space Treaty of 1967, to keep space free from war --

Actually incorrect, we can pull out of the treaties without violating them. That mechanism is built in.

But in the intervening thirty years the US has been pushed by corporate propaganda to a position where nothing is sacred, and where the constant movement to a near-fascist radical right norm has been so pronounced that most people have to think hard to even remember a time in the 60's when any sense of innocence, world community, and thinking of a better future existed.

Well, there is some truth there. Our worshipping at the altar of supply and demand/dog eat dog, and the plastic, artificial, traditional morals free atmosphere is bad news and a real threat.

But at the same time, in some ways we have gotten a heck of a lot better. Don't forget, the 60's had black and white water fountains too. And the roads in Central America were lined with the bodies of troublemakers. In fact, lately, a lot of the thugs we supported around the world, we helped to replace with democracy. And the military/economic might of the USA has been taking dead aim at dictators all across the world. A lot of this is because of the Cold War and it ending.

What the American people (and the people of the world) really need is not an ABM or NMD against some trumped-up enemy missiles ican't even reach us,

I disagree. Not trumped up at all. And they will be able to reach us in a very few years. Less than 5, probably. Not wise to wait until they work to starting working on an antidote.

but a truly effective ACD (anti-corporation defense) against the world killing, alien, global corporations that are already destroying the world and all human/humane community of life as we watch.

Actually, I think science itself is the problem. The problem would exist even if corporations didn't exist and we all lived in closed societies, with no free enterprise.

dirac_10 - 10:58am Jun 8, 2001 EST (#4608 of 4609)

jimmcd53 - 08:47am Jun 8, 2001 EST (#4601 of 4607)

If the lead in James Dao's story in the Times today is accurate, Rumsfeld belongs in a lunatic asylum.

I beg to differ. Rumsfeld is the best man in the executive branch since Bill Clinton. (And Bill Clinton is the best darn president this country has ever had.)

lunarchick - 11:06am Jun 8, 2001 EST (#4609 of 4609)
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