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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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bobdoran1
- 07:32am May 1, 2001 EST (#2867
of 2878)
Protected on two sides by oceans the US's had enough fear to
create a perilous menace in Hanoy. It fought it for 30 years even
thought it didn't have to; even when Ho wanted to continue his WWII
alliance after the war. Yet the UK proved safe enough with just the
English channel. Even after Ike's warning about the military
industrial complex the US is again going to waste a fortune on its
technological welfare system. You've won US, you're not in danger,
try another strategy you paranoid fools. Fix your social
infrastructure instead, invest in your people.
rshowalter
- 08:49am May 1, 2001 EST (#2868
of 2878) 
Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
"Mr.Safire, I'm an admirer of yours: .... rshowalter
"William Safire" 4/30/01 6:32pm
"Safire got one thing right: Slaughtering civilians remotely by
missile or by aircraft is the guilt free American way of doing it.
warrenba
"William Safire" 4/30/01 9:49pm
lunarchick
- 08:54am May 1, 2001 EST (#2869
of 2878)
lunarchick@www.com
The Guardian
on China Concubines and Corruption
lunarchick
- 09:03am May 1, 2001 EST (#2870
of 2878)
lunarchick@www.com
Article on China shows that Missiles aside, there a fundamental
family-social factors, that have greater significance to the general
population than creating war, and these require a lot more
work/time/energy/effort/funding to give more happiness to increased
numbers of people.
lunarchick
- 09:19am May 1, 2001 EST (#2871
of 2878)
lunarchick@www.com
On fixing the social structure and investing in the people: one
notes that the moving of 'food stamps' for the poor from central to
State Gvt brought with it a decline in stamps offered.
A tv expose on this showed that to apply people needed a grade12
reading age, and forms were up to 40 pages in length.
People who were obviously 'sick' and paying medical bills were
being rejected.
Where is the 'saving' in starving these people and their children
... isn't this exactly the situation in North Korea .. were people
were 'wasted' and allowed to die -- simply because the intransigent
government didn't distribute aid fairly.
On an economic basis were the poor of America FED, the multiplier
effects would surely boost agricutlural/horticultural food
production --- from an already subsidised sector .... this flow-on
leading to improved demands for the means of production .. creating
jobs in the US economy.
The children of the poor would have their brains nourished and be
able to concentrate and pay attention in class, enabling them to get
improved scores leading to improved access for higher eduction and
training and ultimately improved job opportunity.
It's surprising that phd hungry America doesn't have people
writing effective REPORTS that place the plight of the poor more
forcefully in front of the Politicians -- who are not quite sure
what to do with those embarassingly large State Coffer surpluses!
lunarchick
- 09:26am May 1, 2001 EST (#2872
of 2878)
lunarchick@www.com
Leads into the further point:
"If the poor of America have politicians to represent them, then
why don't they, and who or what do the politicians represent?"
lunarchick
- 09:29am May 1, 2001 EST (#2873
of 2878)
lunarchick@www.com
This politician represents ..... his
father's interests - of course!
lunarchick
- 09:33am May 1, 2001 EST (#2874
of 2878)
lunarchick@www.com
President Bush is due to come to Europe next month (does the
guy have a passport?)
the announcement will make little attempt to hide the fact
that his administration has already decided to commit billions of
extra dollars over the coming decades to missile defences. The
plans were "a hairbrained scheme to defend the US against
non-existent threats," Stephen Young of the Union of Concerned
Scientists, said.
lunarchick
- 09:35am May 1, 2001 EST (#2875
of 2878)
lunarchick@www.com
http://www.ucsusa.org/index.html
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