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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?

stevewkirby - 10:31pm Apr 10, 2001 EST (#2146 of 2153)

rshowalter: To have checked something is not to know its truth.

stevewkirby - 10:32pm Apr 10, 2001 EST (#2147 of 2153)

rshowalter: By the way, I am not a world leader.

lunarchick - 10:40pm Apr 10, 2001 EST (#2148 of 2153)
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Yet you might like to be ... otherwise you wouldn't be mentioning it!?

So how goes life with Turkey Steve? Chaos with 70% inflation hike and these guys have missiles?

lunarchick - 10:44pm Apr 10, 2001 EST (#2149 of 2153)
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http://www.dwelle.de/english/european_press/Welcome.html

lunarchick - 10:46pm Apr 10, 2001 EST (#2150 of 2153)
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Russian President Vladimir Putin and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder have wrapped up wide-ranging talks during a visit which was strong on symbolism but yielded little of substance. The two leaders met in Russia's second city of St Petersburg, Putin's home town, for talks that covered debt and other economic matters, as well as touching on the fate of Russia's beleaguered NTV independent television channel. Russia owes Germany around 40 percent of its 40 billion dollar debt to Western governments. The two countries have been working on ways to settle some of it by providing Germany, Moscow's main trade partner and creditor, with investment openings in Russia.

LC:(note how the debt yo-yo's in currency amounts from one bulletin to the next)

lunarchick - 10:51pm Apr 10, 2001 EST (#2151 of 2153)
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Lame man of Europe! If anyone has a Turkish bent here's the stuff on their crashed economy: http://www.dwelle.de/turkish/wirtschaft/Welcome.html

lunarchick - 12:48am Apr 11, 2001 EST (#2152 of 2153)
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Note how the USA figures on the Guardian talk board currently:

Calling Americans - what do you think of your president? 11/4/01 05:23am

BUSH!!!! First you steal a nation, and then try to destroy a whole planet. :( 11/4/01 05:21am

Is China's handling of the spy row right? 11/4/01 05:15am

The American Empire: "Nothing Can Stop Us" 11/4/01 05:09am

Questions on a British made PC from '80s 11/4/01 05:02am

Passenger Jet Travel not fast enough 11/4/01 05:01am

Why do Americans believe black helicopters are an alien conspiracy? 11/4/01 04:49am

What kind of people are taking over in the USA? 11/4/01 04:25am

Political asylum for scared U.S. citizens? 11/4/01 04:20am

Will 'The Firm' do Sophie in! 11/4/01 04:20am

Did any of our American posters actually vote for Bush? 11/4/01 04:16am

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On "morally forcing" it might be worthwhile reading this thread - perhaps from the top
http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7726f/450 where the following points re Showalter's work are made:

It had been ignored and not considered for a decade
The work has value to human kind
That currently people are dying might have life extended, if Showalter's mathematics in relation to the working of the body were taken on board
Under one of my monikers i asked the question of Universities to ask themselves 'what business are they in, and what is the purpose of their being' .. an answer - to welcome in NEW KNOWLEDGE

Showalter believes that the thousands dying annually for want of an understanding of the mathematics of the body is a point of moral forcing.

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In relation to Missile Defence. A point made in the London Guardian Science paradigm thread above thread is :

'Were countries that held Missiles to be made to take our an insurance policy with a global body to cover the cost of the damage ensued should that button be pressed, what would be the price ?"

The moral forcing would then be COST related.

I find it amazing that the USA runs it's own citizens into court at the drop of a hat and yet isn't prepared to look at the flow-on effect of Missile usage in a legitimately COSTED manner.

Perhaps if a rogue President can cast an eye around the world, a world he steadfastly refuses to venture into, looking for an enemy to nuke, had to first COST out his poor decision making in environmental and human terms (compensation) ... then he would be morally forced into re-appraisal!

lunarchick - 01:23am Apr 11, 2001 EST (#2153 of 2153)
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Is Turkey in Crisis THREAD

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