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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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almarst-2001 - 02:04pm Feb 23, 2002 EST (#11782 of 11808)

"he's won two Pulitzer Prizes"

And Clinton and Arafat won Nobel Peace prizes...

He is not a devil. He is a SMALL man of an average intellect. The danger is his hollow theories are taken seriously by some.

lchic - 05:35pm Feb 23, 2002 EST (#11783 of 11808)

ColdWarThreadGU

lchic - 06:00pm Feb 23, 2002 EST (#11784 of 11808)

HE IS a small man OF AVERAGE INTELLECT ;)

lchic - 06:14pm Feb 23, 2002 EST (#11785 of 11808)

so much for Adam ... but then there was EVE!

almarst-2001 - 06:40pm Feb 23, 2002 EST (#11786 of 11808)

Wasn’t this “Ministry of Truth” and “War is Peace” stuff supposed to have arrived 20 years ago? George Orwell predicted a government stamping lies as truth and fighting a war so endless as to assume the monotony of peace. Writing against the early Cold War backdrop, he predicted this grim world to arrive in 1984. Well, worse late than never. The Orwellian fears of post-World War II are taking form in early 21st-century Washington. - http://www.msnbc.com/news/680826.asp?0si=-

lchic - 07:13pm Feb 23, 2002 EST (#11787 of 11808)

1984
"Outside, even through the shut window pane, the world looked cold. Down in the street little eddies of wind were whirling dust and torn paper into spirals, and though the sun was shining and the sky a harsh blue, there seemed to be no color in anything except the posters that were plastered everywhere."

The year is 1984; the scene is London, largest population center of Airstrip One.

Airstrip One is part of the vast political entity Oceania, which is eternally at war with one of two other vast entities, Eurasia and Eastasia. At any moment, depending upon current alignments, all existing records show either that Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia and allied with Eastasia, or that it has always been at war with Eastasia and allied with Eurasia. Winston Smith knows this, because his work at the Ministry of Truth involves the constant "correction" of such records. "'Who controls the past,' ran the Party slogan, 'controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.'"

In a grim city and a terrifying country, where Big Brother is always Watching You and the Thought Police can practically read your mind, Winston is a man in grave danger for the simple reason that his memory still functions. He knows the Party's official image of the world is a fluid fiction. He knows the Party controls the people by feeding them lies and narrowing their imaginations through a process of bewilderment and brutalization that alienates each individual from his fellows and deprives him of every liberating human pursuit from reasoned inquiry to sexual passion. Drawn into a forbidden love affair, Winston finds the courage to join a secret revolutionary organization called The Brotherhood, dedicated to the destruction of the Party. Together with his beloved Julia, he hazards his life in a deadly match against the powers that be.

Newspeak, doublethink, thoughtcrime--in 1984, George Orwell created a whole vocabulary of words concerning totalitarian control that have since passed into our common vocabulary. More importantly, he has portrayed a chillingly credible dystopia. In our deeply anxious world, the seeds of unthinking conformity are everywhere in evidence; and Big Brother is always looking for his chance

lchic - 07:16pm Feb 23, 2002 EST (#11788 of 11808)

'all existing records'

Commercial record shredders - as per Enron - would have pulped these ... in post modern times ..

Big Brother always looking for his chance ... wouldn't be Bushy would it ? - Rogues etc

lchic - 07:44pm Feb 23, 2002 EST (#11789 of 11808)

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?50@@.eea0585/0

lchic - 07:53pm Feb 23, 2002 EST (#11790 of 11808)

NAZI 101 : The barbaric torture meted out to prisoners in Camp X-Ray, Cuba, has resulted in severe brain injuries

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?50@@.eea0859/0

almarst-2001 - 10:54pm Feb 23, 2002 EST (#11791 of 11808)

"The barbaric torture "

In a process of bringing the "barbaric" World en-pair to American "values".

But what if the students turn out to be achievers?

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