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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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almarst-2001 - 09:52pm Feb 20, 2002 EST (#11677 of 11701)

Let's take one tiny and almost forgotten example of US policy toward Cuba.

This country never was a treat to US. They have no WMD and try to maintain a good relations with their neighbors. Actually, they play a very positive role in stopping the flow of narcotics and criminals in the area.

Nevertheless, the US maintains a draconian economic and political sunctions against this tiny nation. Why? Just because of the wishes of a small minority of Cuban exile community in Florida. Surelly against the interests of a vast majority of the overall population in US. Why the US media does not raises this issue? Instead, it obediently projects the US Govenmental policy promoting the image of evil Communist enclave at a doorstep of the "Greatest Democracy". If the US is against dealing with non-democtatic countries, it should reject a good portion of its current dear-harts and protegees, not speaking of sunctions. Not to mention all those bloody dictatorships the US actively helped to establish and protected.

How can one trust the intentions and honesty of such a neighbor?

almarst-2001 - 10:31pm Feb 20, 2002 EST (#11678 of 11701)

Northwoods: A Plan for Terror to Justify War Comments by Jared Israel Key Excerpts from the Previously Classified Northwoods Document and Links to the Full Text [Posted 10 December 2001] - http://emperors-clothes.com/images/north-int.htm

The Northwoods plan for staging phony attacks on the U.S. to justify invading Cuba was developed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff in 1962. It was never implemented, perhaps due to fear of Soviet retaliation.

mazza9 - 10:54pm Feb 20, 2002 EST (#11679 of 11701)
Louis Mazza

RShow55:

What do you do when you are confronted with a mad forum poster who will not abide the rules. Is a pre-emptive strike an option. You've been banned once and yet your behavior is not changed.

Why have we been at war with North Korea for over 50 years? Why is there no raproachment with Castro's Cuba. Remember several years ago when his "mighty" Migs downed a civilian aircraft which had violated Cuban airspace while distributing leaflets?

You are a prime example of the "If Only..." crowd. "If only everyone in the world gave everyone else a back rub there would be no war." OR "If only everyone would be caring as me, (fill in your name), the world would be so much better!

You're boring!

LouMazza

almarst-2001 - 11:05pm Feb 20, 2002 EST (#11680 of 11701)

Lou,

One of the questions you asked was "Is a militarized space ... necessary..."

It seems some of the discussions we have are directly related to this. Don't you agree?

mazza9 - 11:20pm Feb 20, 2002 EST (#11681 of 11701)
Louis Mazza

almarst-2001

The Pope helping Nazi's to escape at the end of WWII is not on point. The constant reference to ENRON as if 8 years of Clinton-speak was any different. Mind you, Clinton was impeached! The fact that the Senate didn't do it's duty is another thing.

These are all nice and all but they have nothing to do with missile defense.

As I said, RShow55 has once again taken over this forum as his own little web site bought and paid for by the NYTimes. Is it time for him to be blocked AGAIN?

LouMazza

lchic - 05:30am Feb 21, 2002 EST (#11682 of 11701)

Ken Starr was wanting to impeach Bush. Missile Defense topic - YES - Right ON! Ken Starr - Village Voice last August had concerns regarding the CONFLICT OF INTEREST relating to the President allocating Defense orders to the companies his father is directly connected with!

lchic - 05:37am Feb 21, 2002 EST (#11683 of 11701)

mAzzA - when you say, in a Nazi-bully-manner, that a particular poster has taken over the thread.
What exactly are you really saying ..... ?
And to whom are you appealing - that is if you are appealing ?

lchic - 05:49am Feb 21, 2002 EST (#11684 of 11701)

Professor Slatery (Berkley) was on Oz tv tonight in a science segment on missiles.

As above on this thread, the program noted that counter strike work has been going on since 1946 - unsuccessfully.

The USA military guy used this phrase
"Capability still in the development phase"

Patriot missiles in the gulf war could not, from the data, to be seen to have stopped one missile.

The recent 'tests' where guided to target.
It was said that in a real situation with decoys the chance of a true hit was a very limited 'chance'. Chances improved if, with respect to firing, the 'when' 'where' 'how' and 'what' ... were known factors. Not a real situation.

Slatery said the proposed future system of covering and defending the USA with an umbrella re starWars was too complex to work.

He said removal of the USA from the agreement of 1972 would create an escalating domino effect re China, India, Pakistan and other regions.

This isn't good for the world -- yet may be good for demands for military weapons .... where Father Bush has interests that give him vast financial rewards!

It seems everyone knows starwars is a fraud, from the physisists through to journalists, and Congress ....

If Congress know this - as they must - and if Congress controls budgets ... then why doesn't Congress deflect cash away from war toys to useful stuff that could assist in building the USA economy and the economies of the second world.

If the TRUTH IS KNOWN - Why do the lies persist?

lchic - 06:27am Feb 21, 2002 EST (#11685 of 11701)

Robert Fisk: Europe must stop parroting the American script in the Middle East

'condemnation of Mr Bush's policy by the French and German foreign ministers and by Nato's leadership is real enough. Let us have done with crusades and the "war on terror". Let's have some justice '

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