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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

lchic - 01:44am Jan 1, 2002 EST (#10605 of 10657)

~ The celebrations were 'last' night .. as i've said before i'm one step and almost a day ahead :)

~ Looking for patterns in some of the guys who fall under the OBL spell .. many seem to be from broken homes .. out looking for a culture that embraces and offers philosophy with codes | a family replacement .. who do they bump into but an outsretched tentacle of OBL pathology -- wonder if this guy suffered from a form of autism - he has obsession.

~ The point re the 'casualty' story was not the casualty - rather the 'exclusion' of the US citizens regarding news of the matter.

lchic - 01:51am Jan 1, 2002 EST (#10606 of 10657)

Reflecting i'll return to the assumption that LouM and ID-en are both JawG! Neither have the thoroughness of approach one would expect from either physicists or engineers .. and i've never met a Cambridge person so lacking in skeptism and manners.

idenbade - 11:28am Jan 1, 2002 EST (#10607 of 10657)

I have never seen a more gullible person in my life that listens to propaganda instead of looking at the facts than you.

Ichic you would make a great communist along with good guy. Why don't you two hook up and start your own little Havana?

As for being a skeptic... I become a skeptic when fiction starts to be portrayed as fact. In my field I have enough knowledge to discern the two but you are lacking in that field.

I happen to be disagreeable with you because you talk out of both sides of your mouth. You speak like most Americans that have never been out of the boarders of the United States. I don't consider going to a resort in Mexico leaving the USA. Have you been to China, Cuba, Iran, India, South Africa, Russia, Ukraine, etc. and spent any time there? Like most Americans you think you can understand what goes on around the world from reading articles on the NY Times and reading books. Well that is not the case. I have been to Afghanistan and I have a real good feel for just what life is like there thus my view of the "New War" is going to be based more on fact then some OP-ED story trying to tell me the facts as they see it.

Point: If you want to know the TRUTH about MD then go educate yourself and find a job in the field and then you can revisit this forum and you will see how stupidly dumb people are that post "Fiction" as facts and post journalist renditions of the "Facts"! It is laughable!

mazza9 - 02:24pm Jan 1, 2002 EST (#10608 of 10657)
Louis Mazza

Hey Ichic?

Where'd you learn your name calling. Maybe as a street punk?

This is forum where all opinions are allowed as long as they are delivered with..what is that phrase? "Dulcem et decorum est." Mrs Gormley my Latin teacher would be proud of me.

Look it up and adopt the demeanor, please.

LouMazza

lchic - 02:00am Jan 2, 2002 EST (#10609 of 10657)

India and Pakistan are interesting to the point of laugh-ability.
Two leaders, who may have trodden a similar cultural life path, having to be persuaded by the rest of the world not to use their NUKES!
One wonders what the word will be from China ... perhaps they'll send in teams to 'run' Pakistan? http://www.dawn.com/2002/01/02/

lchic - 10:09am Jan 2, 2002 EST (#10610 of 10657)

India Pakistan - Quote:

We must therefore return to the Simla Agreement of 1972 and the Lahore process of 1999 and take regular and frequent steps of engaging each other. We are not novice countries that we should be needing mediators, advisers and tutors. We must behave maturely and responsibly within our respective countries as well as abroad. In the instant case of Kashmir and the connected cross-border terrorism issue we need to calm each other rather than cause undue excitement. Think of the thousands of people on both sides of the Pakistan-India border who are right now in the process of being displaced from their villages and homes to provide the space for troop movements and possible hostilities. http://www.dawn.com/2002/01/02/op.htm#2 Tony Blair to jet in next week to 'sort the matter out' perhaps?

lchic - 10:15am Jan 2, 2002 EST (#10611 of 10657)

"" the US has never been particularly averse to twisting the facts to suit its (invariably pernicious) purposes. To cite a rather obvious example, President George W. Bush went out of his way to describe the September 11 atrocities as an act of war rather a terrorist attack. Yet the Al Qaeda and Taliban recruits in the US and Afghan custody are apparently to be designated as detainees rather than prisoners of war, because the latter option would make it necessary to treat them according to humanitarian principles outlined by the Red Cross, and make it difficult to subject them to the summary military trials that the US has in mind. http://www.dawn.com/2002/01/02/op.htm#top

mazza9 - 02:40pm Jan 2, 2002 EST (#10612 of 10657)
Louis Mazza

lchic: As a fact twister I suppose you can know one when you see one. I personally believe that the air piracy was a demonstrated fact. Piracy is an act of war, (check international law!).

If you'd rather, call the detainees pirates, try them and erect a yard arm from which they can swing.

LouMazza

idenbade - 06:14pm Jan 2, 2002 EST (#10613 of 10657)

The below speaks for itself! Great Job Bill Clinton!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41966,00.html

lchic - 06:20pm Jan 2, 2002 EST (#10614 of 10657)

Clinton wasn't responsible for the 'culture' of the departments ... they'd lost their way - way back in the Fifties (Hollywood) and Sixties (James Baldwin/LutherKing). The culture is set within these agencies - and the truth is corruption breeds corruption. So where was the vision?

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