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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

idenbade - 02:12pm Dec 30, 2001 EST (#10578 of 10657)

Under Bill Clinton's admin. I knew of 3 Arabic speaking intelligence workers that were "laid off" from the C.I.A. because of budget cuts sighed by Bill Clinton. Even I was asked to listen to some recordings in early October of 2001.

Seems the problem started with the Clinton admin.

I can't say what kind of consumer goods will come to fruition from MD. That would be releasing secret information and I would get in big trouble for that.

1) The space program here and in Russia was designed around military uses.

2) Transistors and other high tech electronics was developed for the space program and had no other applications at the time.

3) The transistor change the world and it was all because of the "Space Race" which was a military action. Take way the need to put up spy satellites and the transistor may not have came to fruition at all.

4) Tektronics was asked to develop a device for "Star Wars". This device at the time had no particle applications other then what it was designed for. In 1992 HP bought the patent and built a device called the "Laser Pluse Eye Scalpel". It is widely used by optometrist all around the world.

I see these same kinds of stories already being developed from the R&D of MD. If fact Agilent Tech. wants to by a patent from my company that is a direct result from MD.

So what are you talking about?

You don't have a clue what is going on. Go get a job in the field and if you can pass the muster of an FBI and CIA back ground check then maybe you will see the light! Just keep on reading "Opinions" from the journalist and just keep on assuming they have all the facts! HAHAHAHAHAHA You are being duped and you can't even see that because of your political hate for Pres. Bush and the conservatives. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA RLMAO! Get a life ICHIC!

mazza9 - 02:14pm Dec 30, 2001 EST (#10579 of 10657)
Louis Mazza

MD like any tool will require development time and it will reach a degree of sophistication and reliability necessary to accomplish it's mission.

When President Reagan put forward the idea of a Strategic Defense Initiative, I was using an Apple III and Advanced Visicalc to do my job. I had a "gasp" 256k machine with a gigantic 5 Megabyte hard drive. Mobile phones were the size of a brick and satellite communications was the province of networks, governments and large corporations.

Please don't denigrate technology in a self serving fashion to try and prove your point.

If a defensive shield helps to reduce offensive weapons then we are all better off for the reduction. The belief that defensive weapons will lead to offensive actions is patently false.

Happy New Year and Peace on Earth.

LouMazza

mazza9 - 02:29pm Dec 30, 2001 EST (#10580 of 10657)
Louis Mazza

Thank you idenbade. It seems we were saying the same thing to Ichic! While I have not had a security clearance in many years, I still subscribe to Aviation Week, (I've read it for over 40 years having discovered it as a Freshman ROTC student), and am well versed is high tech so that often I can read between the lines.

Man's tool making skills stretch back hundreds of millennia and in each generation there have been naysayers who don't get it and base their opinions on their ignorance. I remember that during the heyday of Apollo, Walter Cronkheit, did a filler piece during one of the missions to explain how the Flat World Society was trying to justify their scientific beliefs in light of the TV picutes from earth orbit, trans lunar flight and the moon's surface which demonstrated that their "flat world view" was nonsense.

On a lark I searched and found their web page and they are still every bit as determined to prove their beliefs.

Ichic's Home?

idenbade - 06:55pm Dec 30, 2001 EST (#10581 of 10657)

mazza9,

I agree with you... :) Too bad people get like this. I guess this is what you get from out-come based education! HA! America is last in its education of its people within the G8 and Ichic reflects it all too well.

I retire in two months but will do contract work for some of the top labs in America. JPL is my first client.

Have a great day mazza9 and a happy new year too.

Ichic BTW- the "White" led (light emitting diode) was developed for the Navy Seals and had no other purpose other then that. GE bought the patent from GD and started producing signal traffic light with them. An array of 5 white leds can produce the same light as a 2 KW MV light bulb and only draws a max. current of 250 Mah. Thanks to this Military technology cities around the world are saving millions on their power bills.

lchic - 01:07am Dec 31, 2001 EST (#10582 of 10657)

Still can't tell an 'I i' from an 'L l' as per lchic sounded 'Elle Chic' - it's supposed to be punny!

Guess i'll just re-read this again http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/30/national/30TERR.html?pagewanted=1

So who's working on the equipment that de-programs the brain of a simple man, sold into polorisation in youth, at the behest of a 'spoilt rich brat' uncouth?

It's good that incidental solutional achievements are made via the space and missile programs -- but at what cost ... couldn't the development have been made at a 'lesser' cost? when an engineer would say - 'tell me your NEEDs' and let the engineer work towards a solution .. via the direct route.

lchic - 01:13am Dec 31, 2001 EST (#10583 of 10657)

Seems the problem started with the Clinton admin. idenbade 12/30/01 2:12pm

But don't let me spoil you version of events if you are determined to hang on to it -- all history is subject to interpretation -- even bad interpretation.

lchic - 01:14am Dec 31, 2001 EST (#10584 of 10657)

Good job the Japanese picked up the patent for the transistor from the US military scrap heap .. and found a use for it !

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