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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?


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mazza9 - 03:04pm Dec 27, 2001 EST (#10551 of 10657)
Louis Mazza

As for Martial Arts philosophy, I note the following

According to Swami Vivekananda we can claim to abstain from something only when we can honestly say that we would have been able to do that thing. So non-violence loses its meaning if we are not confident that we can attain our ends with violence.So only when one is completely sure of his prowess as a warrior and yet follows the path of non-violence does he become a perfect martial artist as well as attaining the most sublime virtue of perfect non-violence. Hence is the motto of the Southern Dragon:

Avoid rather than check

Check rather than hurt

Hurt rather than maim

Maim rather than kill

Try this link

idenbade - 08:27pm Dec 27, 2001 EST (#10552 of 10657)

From the NY Times!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Bush Wins Black Support

Nearly three of every four blacks and nine of every 10 whites approve of President Bush's performance, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll, taken from Dec. 7 to 10.

The surge in support from blacks is remarkable, given the longtime attacks on Bush from such Democrat tools as National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, which was behind a vicious campaign ad falsely trying to associate him with the dragging death of a black man in Texas.

"I think he's done a tremendous job in managing the war on terrorism," Donna Brazile, manager of Al Gore's bungled presidential campaign in 2000, told the Times. "He's rallied the country, kept us focused on goals and kept us informed. I don't have any beef with him."

NAACP bigwig Julian Bond grumped that the president was looking good because the war on terrorism had "driven most of the radical conservative agenda both out of the headlines and out of present-day politics."

The Rev. George A. Price of Jacksonville, Fla., told the Times that Bush had merely done the obvious in leading the war effort.

"The bottom line is that in these times you've got to support your leader," Price said. "Would I vote for him? No. But do I think that there should be any overt opposition? Not at a time like this."

However, other blacks "in Jacksonville seemed almost sheepish in admitting that they had voted for Mr. Gore last year," the Times said. "They said that Mr. Bush had shown them something during the last three months, and that they would at least consider voting for him in the future."

"I've got all good things to say about him right now," said fireman Robert K. Hickson, a former Gore voter. "From what I get, he's keeping cool, he's showing good leadership, he's supporting all the troops. So far it seems like it's working."

Margaret A. Izevbizua, a nurse, said she might vote for Bush in 2004.

"He went forward with action, not just talk," she told the paper. "I didn't vote for Bush. I voted for Gore. I was born and raised a Democrat. But after all this happened, I said, `Well, you know, he turned out to be different.' I don't look at him as being Republican or Democrat."

lchic - 09:32pm Dec 27, 2001 EST (#10553 of 10657)

'idenbade' Totally irrelevant to the subject of this board - find US Domestic Politics!

Who is 'idenbade' poster .... doesn't seem to know that USA domestic politics have their own special thread.

Additionally the US in Somalia were there when Clinton was President - but - the fact that they didn't know how to work-in with locals relates to longstanding deficiencies in their training - too much military school and too little work with people.

From outside the US wouldn't have a clue re the Fireman NY and H.Clinton .. and the post poster didn't give any information. - Doen't belong on MD board.

lchic - 09:42pm Dec 27, 2001 EST (#10554 of 10657)

Martial Arts motto starts:
Avoid rather than check
Check rather than hurt

Golden Rule see back in this thread says don't do to others what you wouldn't want done to yourself - a similar type of guideline.

Combining both ... no I wouldn't want to be a victim in either a formal or informal a nuclear attack - nor would anyone.

So where are the 'big' differences between people?

mazza9 - 10:32pm Dec 27, 2001 EST (#10555 of 10657)
Louis Mazza

This forum is about defense. I don't believe any US President has said, "Do what I want or I'll bomb you."

We have been treated to this type of bellicose statement by the likes of North Korea where they threatened our west coast cities.

When General MacArthur made this type of public statement during the Korean Conflict President Truman fired him.

Personally, I would like to think that given the chance we can outgrow this behavior and get about the business of conquering space and time for the benefit of all mankind, (quite a campaign statement!)

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