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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?


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good_guy - 11:34pm Dec 26, 2001 EST (#10537 of 10657)

Good Guy aka Atheist Bill:

ATTEN, IDENBADE:

Dead letter office

Heil Bush,

Dear Gruppenfuhrer Byrd,

Congratulations you have just been awarded the Vidkun Quisling Award for 2001. Your name will now live throughout history with such past award winners as Marcus Junius Brutus, Judas Iscariot, Benedict Arnold, Vidkun Quisling and last years winner Volksjudge Wilhelm Rehnquist.

With your vote to allow Herr Ashcroft to take command of the Gestapo we will soon certainly put those Darkies and Jews back in their place und make Jesus das King.

Along with this award there will be an Iron Cross 2nd class presented by our glorious Fuehrer Herr Bush at a gala party in das Fuehrer Bunker, formerly the White House on 4-1-2001.

We salute you Herr Byrd! Sieg Heil!

Signed,

Deputy Fuehrer Cheney

Heil Bush ================================================

Tho the above may be a bit dated, but it is relevant, and you can read how the Bush/Walker family helped Hitler and Nazi Germany, before, during and after WW II. While punks like you disparage liberals and other decent Americans. Anyway, you may read about your anti-American Fascist, Nazi heroes HERE

Bill

oldfarmboy - 11:47pm Dec 26, 2001 EST (#10538 of 10657)

Read TIME about loose nukes in Russia. Who needs this costly missile defense, what a waste of money, but a treat for Bush's buddies in the defense industry. If a terrorist got a nuke, he wouldn't need a missile for it, and our system would be a big fat waste of money.

lchic - 01:14am Dec 27, 2001 EST (#10539 of 10657)

Interesting how guys written off as No Hope-ers can be reabilitated into Reading Arabic by the singleMinded .. problem is .. they probably still can't read English, and wouldn't understand the safety precautions to be undertaken when dealing with radioactive materials.

wanderer85us - 07:14am Dec 27, 2001 EST (#10540 of 10657)
I hear voices, and they don't like the GOP.

NMD is frankly insane at this juncture, and Bush is frankly a nitwit.

mazza9 - 10:21am Dec 27, 2001 EST (#10541 of 10657)
Louis Mazza

Ichic:

I was assigned to a SAC Bomb Wing in the early 70's and was privy to the SIOP, (THE PLAN). I saw hell every day and know far better than you what MAD is all about.

In the martial arts defense is the philosophy which brings calm and confidence. This is why missile defense is not crazy as some of you espouse.

MAD - a 20 x 20 mile section of the earth where more than 500 nuclear weapons are employed to fashion an escape corrider for B-52s.

NMD - A defensive posture which allows for the draw down of offensive weapons, and maybe, eventually to their total disposal. I know which path I would rather follow.

LouMazza

lchic - 12:53pm Dec 27, 2001 EST (#10542 of 10657)

... even so the reality seems to be that minds 'perverted' to a cause don't sit inside the international political framework ... and with simple tools can create havoc ...

So while folks working within highly funded projects may have high philosophy and ideals as their reason d'etre, the reality can be Chaos reigns.

So the further reality has to be what LouMazza .. what things should be taken into consideration to make the/your/my world a safer place?

And by the way:
It's 'L' with Chic .. Elle Chic ... got it ... small point of detail - that makes me wonder if you really worked the assignments you suggest.

mazza9 - 01:12pm Dec 27, 2001 EST (#10543 of 10657)
Louis Mazza

Elle Chic:

I was assigned to the 5th Bomb Wing at Minot AFB. I was the base Top Secret Control Officer and I remember the first time I picked up the deck of 150 IBM cards at the communications center and carried it to the 91st Strategic Missile Wing on Minot AFB. I remember looking through the deck and noticed that what I carried was the targeting information for each of our 150 Minuteman Missiles.

You don't want to believe? So be it. I was there and you weren't. I can assure you that every person took their jobs seriously and prayed that the plan would never have to be implemented.

I remember when President Nixon mined Haiphong Harbor. We went to Defon 2 and the pucker factor was extremely high.

LouMazza

lchic - 01:25pm Dec 27, 2001 EST (#10544 of 10657)

... even so the reality seems to be that minds 'perverted' to a cause don't sit inside the international political framework ... and with simple tools can create havoc ...

So while folks working within highly funded projects may have high philosophy and ideals as their reason d'etre, the reality can be Chaos reigns.

So the further reality has to be what LouMazza .. what things should be taken into consideration to make the/your/my world a safer place?

I checked out the martial arts for philosophy - these are at the level of the 'individual' .. the philosopy related to MD maight be Political Strategy at Nation to Nation level .. in Chinese Philosophy terms - The ART of WAR .. where everyone tries to be a victor.

Martial Arts Philosophy - from unattributed links :

    The philosophy must be understood on two levels, both from a simplistic standpoint and from an intellectual position.
    In the book Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny, he presents an admonition on something called the Nameless. The argument goes something like this. If I try to describe a fire to a man who has never seen a fire I may tell him many things without truly conveying what fire is. I may say that it ripples like water, but it is not water. I may say that it is like an animal that eats wood and excretes ashes, yet it is nothing like an animal. Until a man has seen a fire and perceived the Nameless reality of it he may not truly understand it. The words get in the way. So what one should do is contemplate the Nameless.
    Ki is a natural thing. Everyone has it. It is inextricably interlinked with breathing. But this is no surprise. Respiration powers the body. To put it simply the exercise of ki is simply your mind's ability to access and control portions of the body that are normally known as involuntary.
ARTofWAR & strategy: http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/gthursby/taoism/suntzu.htm


    It's 'L' with Chic .. Elle Chic ...

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