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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?


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possumdag - 09:00pm Oct 6, 2001 EST (#10167 of 10175)
"Today is silhouetted in my mind" Copp, L A (1971)

    "The US has to learn that its worst enemy is the US" Philip Adams see

possumdag - 09:08pm Oct 6, 2001 EST (#10168 of 10175)
"Today is silhouetted in my mind" Copp, L A (1971)

A whistle blower re a pharmacutical company incident gets $150m see, so on the scale of comparative rank values one recent bounty seems scant.

possumdag - 09:29pm Oct 6, 2001 EST (#10169 of 10175)
"Today is silhouetted in my mind" Copp, L A (1971)

    .. there's at least one US face which can still appear on television or the front page without generating a sense of overkill, irritation or cultural invasion. Amid the hawks and doves, the temperate and the hysterical, there's a consistently acceptable voice. ..... Powell is one of a comparatively rare species to get copious media attention: he's closer than many might suppose to being apolitical. ... able to strike the right tone in delicate, personal matters of that nature because he's not timid, tentative, overbearing or self-important. ... There's a metaphorical sign over Powell's public persona which, sort of, says:
    "Bloke at work, doing the best he can." see

rshowalter - 10:19pm Oct 6, 2001 EST (#10170 of 10175) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

On Powell, and press coverage of him, that makes him look especially good now:
MD8992 rshowalter 9/3/01 7:45pm

I can personally testify that Secretary Powell did not inherit a "rose garden".
MD8393 rshowalter 9/3/01 9:02pm

Poems cited in http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?13@@.ee7b085/193 have been deleted with the links stated, but are:
Chain Breakers http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/618
Secular Redemption http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/619 .... and a link that explains what this "bloke, doing the best he can" owes to Dawn Riley:

. Learning to Stand http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?13@@.ee79f4e/662

If I ever accomplish anything at all, it will be due to the brilliance and grace of Dawn Riley.

armel7 - 07:55pm Oct 7, 2001 EST (#10171 of 10175)
Science/Health Forums Host

I've stopped deleting only because my wrist is tired.

rshowalter -- you've been warned repeatedly about posting messages which only refer to you previous posts. I just deleted two more such posts. Please deseist or be blocked.

This forum is for discussing the science of missile defense systems, particularly related to current propositions. It is not about sociological theory of conflicts (rshowalter) or about proving Genesis is from God (possumdag) or about the war in Afghanistan (everybody).

Your host,
Michael Scott Armel

rshowalter - 10:00pm Oct 7, 2001 EST (#10172 of 10175) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

Let's talk some about accuracy in the morning.

Out for tonight. I appreciate the chance to post in this forum. I'll try to get a collection of NYT pieces on missile defense, since September 9th, posted tomorrow morning.

Dawn, I never got a chance to respond to your wonderful posting on Afghanistan -- and now it has been deleted. I have a copy, and it is great stuff.

I do hope that I can connect past arguments to future ones -- that, I've thought, is what the internet is largely for. I need, sometimes, to refer to past arguments - - but I won't just post naked references to previous posts any more.

possumdag - 08:06am Oct 8, 2001 EST (#10173 of 10175)
"Today is silhouetted in my mind" Copp, L A (1971)

On hitting targets:

One notes the current newsforcasts depict an 'explanationary figure' saying that ground-zero conventional has been chosen over lasar directed*

- current media clip
- re a current conflict

  • * Suggests lasar directed aren't accurate?

    armel7 - 01:19pm Oct 8, 2001 EST (#10174 of 10175)
    Science/Health Forums Host

    possumdag -- You have been warned repeatedly about off-topic posts. You are blocked.

    fructidor -- You are being warned for off-topic posting. Please take anthrax and terrorist-related posts to

    rebecca_nyt "America Attacks" 10/8/01 1:23pm

    rshowalter -- Before I do an IP check, I'll give you a chance to tell me which other aliases you are using here or elsewhere.

    Your host,
    Michael Scott Armel

    rshowalter - 02:34pm Oct 8, 2001 EST (#10175 of 10175) Delete Message
    Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

    I am using no aliases here or elsewhere. Nor have I ever. I wouldn't have felt comfortable doing so. Some of my names on postings over the years may be "showalter" or "rshowalt" or "rshowalter" - - but all are recognizable, or intended to be . I'm in the Madison Wisconsin phone book, and you're welcome to call me. If you have questions, I'll try to be forthcoming, within the usual limits.

    What's an IP check?

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