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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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- 04:31pm Apr 1, 2001 EST (#1875
I'll be gone for a couple of hours. I was grateful for some of
the beauty that the NYT brought into the world in the Sunday TIMES.
- 06:44pm Apr 1, 2001 EST (#1876
An interesting segment on our media while you were gone.
'RESPECT' is now taught in Baltimore. The value of
respect/ettiquette/behaviour is that young people will have the
tools they need to function in more complex situations.
There has for too long been an assumption that young people
'automatically know' how to function under varied cirucmstance -
- 07:31pm Apr 1, 2001 EST (#1877
Showalter, what do you think to the 'left' v 'right' aspects of
Why not Tomorrow v Yesterday?
All nations have a 'mixed' economy, that's what taxation does, it
collects and re-delivers. All nations do this, and the provision of
services for the people are important. The Scandinavian countries
most often are in advance of others with regards to catering to the
real needs of people.
If a ban was placed on the use of 'left' and 'right' ..... and
these change in meaning daily in political framing .. then there
would have to be an 'evaluation' of ideas and a determination of the
'quality' of the same.
Don't all Governments have a checklists of the needs and wants of
their populations. Perhaps a fairer and more logical way of looking
and evaluating needs to be developed.
- 07:39pm Apr 1, 2001 EST (#1878
It seems that Secretaries of Defense could use some instruction,
as well. The NYT reported that Rumsfeld gave a speech on missile
defense, at a conference with a VERY senior Russian present and
waiting to make a speech, and neither mentioned Russia in his
remarks, nor stayed to listen to the Russian's speech, nor
socialized, nor showed respect for the Russian in any way.
It was if he was working to ASSURE breakdown of
communications. A lot of rapper music shows that sort of
"attitude" but it ill becomes a high official -- and ESPECIALLY one
responsible for military conduct.
Even SAC says "Peace is Our Profession" and claims to mean
it. Well, peaceful relations are polite.
( Speaking for myself, there are times when, on balance, one
needs to meet bad manners with worse manners -- especially when one
is standing for oneself alone, and not compromising others, as a
high state official would do. )
Rumsfeld fell short -- and he also went out and hired an number
of people whose writings were contemptious of Russia, and counter
factual or counterlogical to a degree that simply cannot stand
detailed crossexamination, and that repells and appalls our allies,
who are losing respect for the United States, at a great rate, for
very good reasons.
It is important for the Russians, at every level, to show SPECIAL
respect for Rumsfeld and company -- perhaps to set him an example,
but at least to make sure that, if the US leaders act to marginalize
their nation, the Russian leaders do not act to marginalize theirs.
- 07:43pm Apr 1, 2001 EST (#1879
The propaganda amd mass-media thrive on simplifications.
Without "left" - "right", "black" - "white", "good" - "evil"
symbols there will be need for much more in-depth and complex
analisys. Will there be any interest in the general public?
- 07:50pm Apr 1, 2001 EST (#1880
4/1/01 7:31pm makes great sense. We ALL have values that could
be called "right wing" or "left wing" -- and they are often related.
To be "liberal" about one sort of thing - you may have to be
"careful and conservative" about other things -- lest chaos descend.
Nations are composed of people, who live together, in a common,
complicated culture and sociotechnical system, who have wants and
needs. What makes sense is to find ways so that "team leaders" --
the leaders of nations -- can do those things that keep their teams
safe, and comfortable, and prosperous by the standards of their
Always, that will involve strictness, about some things, to allow
freedom about others. Quite often, Russians and Americans are strict
and free about different things. Both are very free, in some ways,
and very rigid in other ways. Quite often, different ways.
But the test for a leader ought to be
" What is good for the nation I lead, as it is,
and as the people in it want to be, in the complicated world as it
The answers to that complicated question will involve a lot of
detail, and the need for a lot of feedback, and simple ideas like
"left wing" or "right wing" -- WHICH ARE STRUCTURALLY MISLEADING IN
THE COMPLICATED CASES INVOLVED don't help much.
- 07:51pm Apr 1, 2001 EST (#1881
A: I think the public would be very interested, if the
complexities were well presented. Popular drama, in both our
countries, is simplified from real life, but MUCH more complex than
the over-simplicities of our political discourse.
Now, I'll finish the last posting.
- 07:52pm Apr 1, 2001 EST (#1882
A much better question is:
" What is beautiful, in context, for
circumstances as they are, everything considered?
Beautiful solutions to Russians are often ugly to Americans (in
applied math and a lot of other things) but that ought to be all
right. And the two groups should be able to cooperate
perfectly well, even though they will always remain very different.
Dosoyevski was a distinctly un-American figure.
Mark Twain could never have been who he was in Russia, either.
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