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limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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- 03:59pm Mar 31, 2001 EST (#1845
As far as I understand, the war was escalation of interethnic
tension as perceived (and probably very real) oppression of Albanian
desires for greater autonomy were prevented by a very centralised
Balkan ethnic tension have a history of being particularly bitter
for a long time (major cause of WWI). The KLA's formation two years
ago lead to the escalation of political opposition to physical
conflict between Albanians and Serb police (and later military)
The international community, (if there is such a thing), saw it
as a purely internal problem, until, at some terrible stage, there
seemed to be change in Serbian police tactics.
Rather than pure gunfighting between armed groups of KLA and
Serbian forces of law and order, complete villages of Albanians
started 'disappearing' - all the male youths were suspected of KLA
loyalty and the allegeations emerged that the Serbian police were
simply 'eliminating' potential opposition, without the youths
bearing arms or acting illegally. Albanian women suspected of
helping KLA alleged that Serbian police forces engaged in torture
and rape in attempting to extract confessions and information on KLA
Evidence of large mass graves started drifting through to the
western media and eventually European leaders started to question
the situation and demand Serbia respect human rights. As evidence
continued to emerge of these effective but completely unethical
police tactics, the EU placed a trade embargo on Serbia and NATO
threated possible action. Two weeks later (with no sign of Serbia
allowing in international observers), the alleged atrocities were
thought to be still going on.
It was only then that NATO bombed the initial targets (airfields
and radar) and demanded Serbia stop.
Evidence after that emerged that the Serbian army had suddenly
started removing people from their homes wholesale in Kosovo and
torching the buildings - Milosovic apparently 'getting back at NATO'
via attacking the Albanians. A steady stream of refugees entered
Three days later, after a refusal to alter policy (or admit
observers), NATO resumed strikes til the Serbian government
conceeded, several weeks later.
- 04:04pm Mar 31, 2001 EST (#1846
:) ... in a 'nut-shell'
- 04:04pm Mar 31, 2001 EST (#1847
You might find this interesting:
(Milosevic's possible arrest)
- 04:05pm Mar 31, 2001 EST (#1848
I recall seeing references, that seemed solid, that the Serbian
killings had been overestimated by CNN by something like a factor of
20 -- a pretty gross disparity, and there are other questions, too.
If the disparity was anything like that large, we have reason to
question some stories.
- 04:33pm Mar 31, 2001 EST (#1849
I try to use the word allegation where appropriate, but I don't
think the allegations I heard were that exaggerated. They showned
photographs of underground Serbian police chambers (after liberation
this is) including instruments used to inflict pain on KLA suspects
and collaborators, complete with sets of restraints.
Of course NATO could have set up these chambers themselves to
make the Serbs look like criminals, but I doubt it's probable.
- 04:38pm Mar 31, 2001 EST (#1850
I wasn't questioning criminality on the part of the Serbians --
the article I saw -- and haven't put my hands on - questioned
I've got something else I have to do for the rest of the day --
- 05:27pm Mar 31, 2001 EST (#1851
Americans complaining re KYOTO
- 07:04pm Mar 31, 2001 EST (#1852
For Alex (can't attribute - but nice ..)
" .... I once heard English described as a language that chases
other languages down dark alleys, whacks them on their head and then
steals linguistic goodies from their pockets... "
- 07:59pm Mar 31, 2001 EST (#1853
Intersting thread title http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee80eb4/22
- 08:31pm Mar 31, 2001 EST (#1854
Moscow: MTV: rally for freedom of expression
"MTV is the only channel that tells the truth - all others are
under gvt control" says a Russian
Kremlin described as a 'bunch of liars' by a Russian.
Putchin said to be wanting to take over press tv
Gvt said that MTV is in debt
CNN Ted Turner --- wants to assist MTV
UK 821 cases of Foot/Mouth 50,000 farms in UK .. one in 60 have
Euro leaders FURIOUS with BUSH re KYOTO
Bush on collison with WEurope re emissions.
Bush is 'for dirty jobs' in USA + 'for new technology' // USA
gets dirtier by the YEAR ^^^^
fossil fuel consumption the problem
5% of earth's population
20% of dirty air output
EC to put pressure on USA re Kyoto
[Bush didn't show leadership re death penalty ... can he be
expected to show leadership here ..
USA must be posing as 'A DEVELOPING COUNTRY'
the KYOTO agreement must have been a 'too hard' document for Bush
to cope with
USA says it has a plan --- somewhere!
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