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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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- 01:04pm Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1705
"They are going to join the rest of Europe in peace and
prosperity. Rejoice. Get over it. "
Its pretty hard to argue with someone having so different view on
MORALITY. If morality is somthing you are ever considering.
- 01:17pm Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1706
Sometimes relations of mutual consistency dictate a lot -- so
that people have much in common.
There is a tradition, and sometimes Dirac and others
connected to nuclear weapons take this position, that denies any
morality at all in the affairs of nation states, or where nuclear
weapons are concerned.
Russians have heard a great deal of this astounding argument in
the nuclear arms talks over the years. I'm ashamed of the United
States for having representatives who have made and make the
But most people do not deny morality, and cannot do so and live
in functional societies.
The facts of the case here, considering nuclear threats and
policies since the early 1990's especially, would, I believe have
only a tiny number of defenders in the whole world. If the facts
were set out clearly and completely.
- 01:22pm Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1707
That setting out would take staff work, and the work could best
be done involving journalists and others, on an international basis.
The US, UK, France, Germany, and Russia might have people involved.
With the internet, this sort of collaboration is feasable, and
everything can be open -- so that no one can claim
underhandedness or bias --- people with objections only have to have
to courage to speak up.
(That's true of this forum, as well.)
- 01:23pm Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1708
And other nations as well ! China, India, Pakistan, and Israel
would be especially welcome.
- 01:25pm Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1709
- 01:27pm Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1710
Black gold fuels Caspian competition - http://www.washtimes.com/world/default-200132822844.htm
- 01:42pm Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1711
Be careful. Be honorable. Make sure you can meet both the
practical and emotional needs of partners.
Everything one can say about reliability, including the
importance of a rule of law, applies.
You might have some reason for exploratory talks with a major oil
company -- not necessarily US based, but possibly US based, so that
you can assure Iran that you have the highest possible engineering
quality, and execution quality, in the deals you propose. ExxonMobil
might be one to think about. Among others.
In such a situation, the entire world has an interest in
truth , because a deal that makes sense to all concerned is
stable, and humanly workable. One based on underhanded dealings, if
the splits are very unfair, make for bad relations.
- 01:43pm Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1712
If you feel that European or American news is biased -- it may
be. There are ways to deal with that, to a limited but real degree,
within the system.
- 02:58pm Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1713
If I were Russia, I'd find myself a banker I could trust -- a big
one -- maybe Soros, or someone he knows -- and get some help from a
big oil company (talk to at least four or five different ones) and
make sure you've got competent chemical engineers on your team.
If you believe that US military and foreign policy is being
manipulated to serve oil interests -- maybe so, but you'll have to
make that case.
Here's a fact -- there are a good number of oil companies with
fine technical expertise and there are a number of good engineering
firms, too. They compete with each other.
Read the public statements of oil companies, ask that they live
up to the ideals they profess in public, and ask their advice on how
Big oil companies, in it for the long pull, are big bastards
(some with grosses larger than the Russian government budget) and
they are tough bastards, but in many ways they have to be honest
bastards, within the rules they play by -- just because they
are in it for the long pull.
If perchance, I'm of any help here, I'd like to be repayed by
extra disarmament efforts.
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