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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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- 11:16am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1674
lunarchick - 10:41am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1668 of 1672)
Diffusion Theory ...
data/knowledge moving backwards and forwards fueld by
Well, the ideological thing is gone. Nothing but greed left.
- 11:22am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1675
On Whacko 'dictators' ... how do they arise ? How can ONE
luney-tune rise to the pinnacle of power .. rather than be directed
to the psychiatric department for necessary 'treatment' ?
Usually Chaos is their floatation mechanism. Through dis_order
they promote policies that are patriotic, wild, and unchecked. Once
they have power they lock out democratic discourse and 'trash' their
own people additional to making war on others.
- 11:24am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1676
almarst-2001 - 10:52am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1671 of 1674)
Dirac surelly missed the point that there is no defence
against someone irrational.
I assume they will be irrational. With enough of them running
around for enough time, you can count on it. You guys are the ones
that think the dictators will act rationally with their ICBMs.
And there many more ways to inflict the harm then lunch a
Well yes of course. But there are very solid reasons why the US
and Russia put all that money into them.
A missle can be launched with a push of a button. At any time.
A mason jar with Russian weaponized smallpox has to be sent here.
And generally speaking prepositioned. People have to be aware of the
plan. It is not safe to assume we would not find out. And if we did,
the result would be the same as the launch of the ICBMs.
- 11:26am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1677
Missiles are anti clean air. The German Chancellor is putting
'clean air' at the TOP of his list as he meets (soon) with your
bushed 'top cockey' ( that's a parrot where i stand, from your
viewpoint - may be a lame_duck! )
- 11:28am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1678
It seems you clearly contradict yourself by trying to rationalise
the response of someone supposedly irrational.
Could you prevent the Oklahoma bombing for example?
- 11:29am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1679
rshowalter - 11:14am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1673 of 1676)
You sure sound like my old pal Philip Hendrik I used to chat with
on another forum.
- 11:32am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1680
I spent time looking at the NYT and some other papers this
morning, and thinking of how things have developed since Bush took
Events have been amazing.
I'm not a church-goer, but I sometimes have religious interests,
and refer to them -- even a sermon" http://www.wisc.edu/rshowalt/sermon.html
One doesn't have to be religious to think about God on a "what
if" basis -- thinking about "God's Will" can be an
interesting thought exercise, whether you believe in God or not.
Could things be unfolding according to some divine plan? Usually,
the idea seems worse and worse, the more you look at it. But this
time, this morning at least, this occurred to me.
"If GOD HIMSELF were trying to put together the
conditions for world peace, he might be able to do no better, with
people being as they are, than have the things that are happening
Because the legitimacy of nuclear weapons, and war threat
scenarios, is being stripped away - the Bush administration is
getting very isolated in the world --- almost miraculously so, in a
And the notion of Russia as the "Evil Empire" is evaporating too.
The Bush administration is making the US into the "Evil Empire" -
and doing it with economy and speed, from many perspectives.
There might be little else that could so serve the cause of
peace. Suppose peace "broke out" among the old "enemies" in the
world, on the major issues, except for the United States. The US
might look pretty evil under such a circumstance, but it would be
fairly harmless, too.
- 11:37am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1681
lunarchick - 11:22am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1675 of 1679)
On Whacko 'dictators' ... how do they arise ?
It's a selection process.
How can ONE luney-tune rise to the pinnacle of power ..
rather than be directed to the psychiatric department for
necessary 'treatment' ?
There are always plenty of cold blooded predatory people around.
In many systems, they are selected for.
Modern western democracies have a pretty good system. The leader
of the country is never permitted to have any real power. Never
trust them. Any one person can go south.
- 11:48am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1682
Pulling Back, North Korea Opens Up to Other Nations ....... by
HOWARD W. FRENCH---March 29 "TOKYO, March 28 — With the
Bush administration signaling a go-slow approach toward North Korea,
that country has pushed its diplomacy into high gear in recent
weeks, establishing ties with a wide variety of countries. . . . "
Maybe, with history as it is, Japan and the US are the nations N.
Korea least wants to make peace with.
The story sounds like great news for peace.
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