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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?

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lunarchick - 03:23am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1653 of 1674)

Science is filthy business.

Science is knowledge, it's the decisions regarding it's application that require people with VISION.

rshowalter - 07:30am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1654 of 1674) Delete Message
Robert Showalter

I'm glad to see the points Dirac poses raised.

How easy it is to kill people, groups of people, and organizations -- and the machines they have -- how many ways there are to do it !

I'll be back about that --- I don't think the military is doing a nearly comprehensive enough job about thinking about the killing they could do, and the damange others could do, that they ought to want to protect against.

But I would point out -- it is easy to kill, and the tools for doing so are always pretty close at hand.

There are good reasons to CHOOSE NOT to kill, and to take steps to see that murder, and accidental death, are avoided.

Back later about this. Dirac, glad to see your "scientific" view here again.

rshowalter - 07:31am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1655 of 1674) Delete Message
Robert Showalter

n Kremlin Shuffle, Putin Puts Loyalists In Key Security Jobs ......... By Peter Baker and Susan B. Glasser ..... Washington Post -- March 29 -- page A18 is an interesting article, with a good picture of Putin ( hansome devil ! )

"MOSCOW, March 28 -- President Vladimir Putin today installed loyalists to oversee the military and domestic security forces and ousted several holdovers from Boris Yeltsin's cabinet

Putin described the shake-up as a historic effort to assert civilian control over the armed forces

"As you can see, we have civilians coming to key posts at military institutions," Putin said. "This is done consciously. This is a step toward the demilitarization of Russia's public life."

On the issue of corruption, I noticed these things:

"In a surprise move, Putin also forced out Atomic Energy Minister Yevgeny Adamov, who had come under fire in parliament for alleged corruption.

" (Sergeyev) lost a months-long fight with Anatoly Kvashnin, chief of the general staff, who has been pushing for more spending on conventional troops at the expense of the nuclear forces favored by Sergeyev.

"Other decisions announced today included the dismissal of the head of the tax police, Vyacheslav Soltaganov. The tax police have become an especially feared force in Russia, sending teams of masked, armed agents to raid homes and businesses.

"The moves won wide approval in Moscow, particularly the notion of civilian control of the armed forces. "It's one of the great principles of a democratic society to have civilian control of the military and other organizations," Andrei Kokoshin, a former secretary of the security council, said in an interview. "It's a very important symbolic move."

. . . . . . .

"At the height of the debate over Adamov's nuclear waste proposal, the Duma's anti-corruption committee produced a report on his personal business activities and demanded a criminal investigation. Adamov, the report alleged, set himself up in business with a U.S. partner in the early 1990s, winning contracts from the atomic ministry at the same time he headed a top-secret institute there.

""Environmentalists in the whole world are applauding this decision," Tobias Muenchmeyer, a Russia nuclear expert at Greenpeace, said after Adamov was sacked. Putin had to make the move because he told the public "that there wouldn't be Yeltsin-style corruption anymore and Adamov didn't fit into this."

In the US, we may have to consider such moves. Such moves are difficult, within the complexities of a real, working human system. To make them well takes hard work, as well as wisdom. I wish the Russians well with these reorganizations, and those to come. A strong, stable Russia is needed for world prosperity, and for peace.

rshowalter - 07:33am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1656 of 1674) Delete Message
Robert Showalter

Another view of this news, with pictures of displaced Russian leaders Adomov, Sergeyev, and Rushailo Russia's Putin Makes Cabinet Changes . . . by ANGELA CHARLTON, Associated Press Writer

rshowalter - 07:37am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1657 of 1674) Delete Message
Robert Showalter

Dirac, there's a fine Guardian thread that I think you and other might read, admire, and enjoy. I think you might ask the question of "you and yours" (meaning you and your associates and "soul mates.") Can Scientists Feel Pain?

sumofallfears - 09:25am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1658 of 1674)

National Missile Defense destablizes the United States and actually makes the nation LESS secure then more secure. It is that simple.

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