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- 10:23pm Mar 27, 2001 EST (#1582
Spy scandal, Chechnya dispute add to worsening US-Russia ties
- 10:37pm Mar 27, 2001 EST (#1583
MOSCOW, March 27 (UPI) -- Russia's state-run RTR television
network Tuesday broadcast what it said was a tape detailing a
senior U.S. diplomat's involvement in the spy scandal that prompted
Moscow's retaliatory expulsions of four U.S. diplomats last week. -
US won't rule out more Russian expulsions in espionage row
WASHINGTON, March 27 (AFP) - http://asia.dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/world/article.html?s=asia/headlines/010328/world/afp/US_won_t_rule_out_more_Russian_expulsions_in_espionage_row.html
The United States on Tuesday refused to rule out the expulsion of
more Russian diplomats in the biggest post-Cold War espionage row
between the two countries.
State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said Washington would
keep its options open until it completes a review of a list of US
diplomats Moscow is kicking out of Russia in retaliation for last
week's mass expulsion of Russians.
"We're studying the list to see who it is," Boucher said after
confirming that Russian officials had presented the United States
with the names of four US diplomats who have been given 10 days to
leave the country.
In addition, he said Moscow had handed over a list of additional
US diplomats who must leave Russia by the summer.
"We considered the matter closed and we'll leave it that way, but
we're obviously looking at the list," Boucher told reporters,
calling a review of the "responsible."
A senior State Department official said 46 Americans were named
in the second list, making Russia's retaliation exactly equivalent
to the number of Russians -- 50 -- told to leave the United States
by July 1.
Should the Russian response be determined to be disproportionate
to the US action in terms of the rank or seniority of diplomats to
be expelled, Washington could reopen the "closed" case and
retaliate, the official said.
"Whether it stays closed depends on whether they do anything more
than we did to them," he said on condition of anonymity.
"So far, its doesn't look like they're not doing anything more
than we did to them, but we will have to see after studying the list
whether that remains the case."
The United States announced last week it was expelling 50 Russian
"intelligence agents" operating in the country under diplomatic
Four of the Russians were linked to the case of Robert Hanssen
the FBI agent accused of spying for Moscow for 15 years, the other
46 were told to leave to reduce what Washington believes are the
swollen ranks of the Russian intelligence operation in the United
The US expulsions prompted a near immediate tit-for-tat response
from Moscow though until Tuesday, Washington had not been told which
of its diplomats must leave Russia.
Boucher declined to reveal either the names or ranks of the
American diplomats named in the Russian lists but defended them and
noted that members of the US foreign service are often proud when
they are forced to leave a country.
"Generally in our history, it's been a badge of honor to get
kicked out of somewhere," he said.
- 10:42pm Mar 27, 2001 EST (#1584
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- 01:58am Mar 28, 2001 EST (#1585
Chechnya: on this, it is important to look at the needs of the
people, and listen to their arguments in a responsive manner. The
needs of people seem to be a desire to honour their culture, educate
for the future, and make a decent living.
The problem with 'long running' disputes is that a whole
generation of young men develop minds attuned to the arguments of
injustice, as in Northern Ireland, and later when the dispute is
over, these guys are so programmed to be distructive that 'they just
can't help themselves'.
One noticed that the Germans were picking up the moderate
hoodlums, taking them into University, to attend seminars, with
other young people, where they could 'reframe their mindset' in
light of fact.
On the French, they say of themselves that whatever anybody else
is doing or thinking, they want to do the opposite. If a system has
been in place for 'too long', they don't want to modify and adjust
it, rather completely knock it down and develop the new.
On the Americans .. a guy has a show where he literally enacts
the policies that right=wingers propose, then presents the enactment
of their logic to them ... and they have to walk away .. things can
look and be ludicrous! The guy says "This is what you are saying"
... "LOOK!!!" ... "Is this what you 'really' mean?" .. "Can you see
the consequences of the logic of your thought pattern?"
What he actually does is SHAME them into dropping or changing
With foreign policy the problem is that people can lack
sensitivity to others who become a number without a name. They fail
to identify with an outsider. Because of this they let their
Rogue-Superpower-Government literally get away with MURDER.
- 02:15am Mar 28, 2001 EST (#1586
The Editorial in The New Scientist this week takes Bush to task
over the koyoto clean air agreement. This weekly journal's Editor
breezed through these parts a while ago, he seems to be a
thoroughtly decent, ethical humanbeing routing for scientists by
bringing their work to the fore and showing how new paradigm shift
ideas and concepts actually fit into the bigger picture of the
scientific and ecological environs.
The philosophy of the New Scientist is to present material in
such an interesting and non-contrived manner that the generalist
reader can follow and enjoy evolving scientific discovery and
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